In the twenty-seventh World of Warcraft podcast episode, we raid and ponder all things LFR including comparisons to heroics, why raiding makes us want to run dailies, and fixing the “not enough tanks and healers problem.” We uncover more TradeSkillMaster macros to help with crafting and build a new method for tracking transmog sets on the auction house, and we reveal everyone’s favorite questline for week 6 of our 30 weeks of World of Warcraft.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

LFR

Easier than heroics?

Making us want to do… dailies!

The “Not Enough Tanks and Healers” Problem. How to Solve it?

https://twitter.com/Jagoex/status/320990678505095168

Our solution.

Auction House Strategies and Automation

TradeSkillMaster Macros

Queue up items to craft… you have to click the “Craft Next” button or… use a macro!

/click TSMCraftNextButton

/click TSMAuctioningPostButton

/click TSMAuctioningCancelButton

/click TSMAHTabBuyoutButton

/click TSMAHConfirmationActionButton

You can bind this macro to your mouse scroll wheel as typically these actions are on different TSM screens.

Why having hundreds and even thousands of auctions is a bad idea

Using TradeSkillMaster_Mailing addon

Molsan Methods

New set of functions that integrate with the WoW Armory and Blizzard API and connect them to various data sources

Transmog Set from a particular resource and builds item lists for importing into various consumers such as Wowuction, TSM, Chrome Bookmarks, etc.

First method is currently available in beta.

#TWoWoW – Week 6 – Favorite Questline

Sláinte

Molsan

Audio

Strumpet

Hasteur

Mominatrix – Week 6

Email

Hey guys, it’s Grimm with another double submission for the 30 weeks of WoW segment. These questions both gave me a lot of trouble, one because there were too many good choices, the other because there were too few.

My favorite Vanilla dungeon is a tough one, because I don’t particularly like any of them. They were all so long and punishing if you failed, I had a hard time getting excited to ever do them. I suppose if I have to pick one, I’ll go with Scarlet Monastery, mostly because I love the run up to it in Tirisfal Glade. The long winding path lined with decaying trees with the Scarlet Crusade’s victims hanging from the branches was so eerie, and being a low level in a world of elites at the time, I found the whole thing pretty daunting. I also liked the environment of the Monastery itself. I enjoyed the different feel of each wing, and really loved the hidden room with High Inquisitor Fairbanks. I also remember longing to know someone with the Corrupted Ashbringer, so that I could see the way the dungeon supposedly changed for a player who carried it. I thought that had to be one of the coolest Easter eggs in the game.

My favorite quest chain, on the other hand, is nearly impossible to choose. Wrathgate and Quel’Delar are both awesome, as are many of the quest chains in Icecrown. But for pure nostalgia’s sake, I can’t not cheat a little and give a tie to the original questline in Eastern Plaguelands with Tirion Fordring, and the original chain to protect Pamela Redpath in Darrowshire, also in Eastern Plaguelands. I think I love the Tirion chain because as a Horde player it was really the first time that I had participated in a long chain with a big story payoff at the end, when (spoiler) you save Tirion’s son from his brainwashing at the hands of the Scarlet Crusade, only to have him killed in battle on the way out. I think it also stuck with me because when I did it, I had just finished the Chris Metzen short story about Tirion and felt for him being exiled from his family, and never really getting another chance to be a father and husband to them. And Darrowshire just felt epic to me because it reminded me of Seven Samurai, in that you have a very small force trying to defend a village from a huge invading force. Plus you are doing all this to protect the spirits of the town, and correct a past wrong, which was a cool twist I hadn’t encountered before that.

Well, I’ve probably rambled on long enough. Thanks for the great show, and I’ll talk to you guys next time.

Grimmclaw of Alea Iacta Est Dignitas, Earthen Ring US

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Hey  Molsan and Sláinte,

For this week’s question “What is your favourite quest chain?” I immediately thought of 3 quest chains. The first one is the Greatmother Geyah quest chain in Nagrand. I think this is the single longest quest chain the game with all the quests you have to do to start it and finish it. This is my favourite one in the game, so long, epic, and lore-packed. Second: The Wrathgate; simply one of the most epic quest chains in the game. Third: the quest chain in Icecrown with the quest called “The Hunter and Prince”. In this one you get to take control of Arthas and fight Illidan! It was  one of the most fun quests I’ve done in the game to date.

Hope you guys have a great show, and I’ll see you next week!

Tydanis, Blood Elf DK, Earthen Ring US

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Hey Bit and Salt,

Kanzaki, ER, here and loved that Onyxia fight. 1-shot on my shadow priest. Brings back some memories.

For the 30 weeks of WoW, I’d like to combine question 4 and question 6. I loved Stormpeaks and the Sons of Hodir quest line. More specifically, the Thrusting the Spear quest of soloing  drake while fighting in his mouth. I also enjoyed jumping from drake to drake around thorim and finishing one of the greatest old achievement for a priest, Who needs a Knuckle Sandwich, because priests need to cap their unarmed weapon skills.

Keep it up and always look forward to the next episode.

Kanzaki

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Favourite Questline. There’s been so many, I bet I’m forgetting some great ones!

I actually really enjoyed the majority of the attunement quest lines. They were long, required effort, and had a rewarding goal that wasn’t just a bit of loot that you’ll replace tomorrow.

The oldest one I recall is the Onyxia attunement (alliance side!) Helping many (many) folks with the Blackrock Depths prison run!

Karazahn attunement is an obvious favourite – very epic, plus it brought out the best in guildies helping each other.

But the quest line that I remember most fondly that is “just” a quest line would have to be the Linken quest in Un’goro. That kind of chain that takes you all over Azeroth, and spans many levels (if you start it at level) was a ton of fun and very rewarding. I still have Linken’s Boomerang on most toons – I remember when it was one of the few ways a pally had a ranged pull ability!

-Ashayo

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Hey Guys,

So I have two favorites, one is Amberseeds!  I knew I never should have touched that damn thing.  The second one is all of the quests leading up to the destruction of the jade serpent statue in Jade Forest.  I loved learning and reading all of the pandaria lore, and I enjoyed the whole questline where you are revealing the 3 prophecies on the wall as you complete each quest series.

Catch ya laters!

~Jellad CTR Aerie Peak

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Hi guys,

I will try and keep this short but apologize if it’s not (I get verbose when typing).  I love the podcast!  You guys are the first thing I listen to in the morning and typically the last at the end of the evening.  I’m working on getting caught up on all episodes.

My main is Tazilhoff a level 90 gnome mage on Frostwolf but I’m in the process of leveling up Lowpand a pandaren warrior and Lizat a blood elf paladin on Mal’Ganis.

First things first to get caught up on the last 5 weeks of WoW and add my 6th:

1. My first character was Tazil the gnome mage.  I started playing in BC and I still have him to this day.  He’s my first and only 90 at this point.  Unfortunately I did lose the name Tazil when I realm transferred so he now goes by Tazilhoff.

2. My favorite raid is hard to come up with since the very first raid I’ve ever done was Mogu’shan Vaults.  Which was…well a little underwhelming.  I think that’s because it was using LFR and not with a group of people going the whole route.  The dragon was a fun fight though.

3. I’ve never been able to get excited about Shamans.  Not sure what it is.

4. I really liked the Hellfire Peninsula zone.  It was very epic at the time with the transition through the gate and the big war that was going on.  The sense of scale there was great.

5. My favorite vanilla dungeon would be Zul’Farrak.  That fight on the stairs of the temple was a blast!

6. I liked the quests with Tarenar Sunstrike and Gidwin Goldbraids in the Eastern Plaguelands. The friendship between the two from different factions was a lot of fun and very touching.  “The Paladin Palls” was a good touch.

Last but not least!  I was in Warsong Gulch with my warlock and trying to capture the flag.  I was about five steps away from the flag when I was killed.  But!  I was able to use my soulstone to come back, grab the flag, and capture it for my side!  I thought that was pretty epic. :)

I hope you guys are having a great show and keep up the good work!

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Favorite Quest Line:

http://www.wowhead.com/quest=28096/welcome-to-the-machine

Welcome to the Machine in Hillsbrad Foothills.  I’m sure I’m not the only one who’s going to pick this, but it’s pure meta-hilarity from the first leg of the chain.  This quest is reason enough to roll horde.

“Yes, this IS horse made of STARS. ” -Johnny Awesome

 Mildrid (Earthen Ring US)

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From Tanasttia:

Hey guys,

I’ve very much wanted to participate in your 30 weeks of WoW but kept putting it off until now it’s like Week 6 already.

I thought Tweets would be a succinct way to “catch up,” but I still would hate for you to have to read all that.

Suddenly, I had an epiphany! I will do the first 5 weeks in haiku form (though some are more like haiku couplets). Here goes:

Week 1

figured the game would suck

rolled the most ugly undead

Tardmo the Warrior

like a total noob

left the starting zone too soon

infinite corpse runs

 

Week 2

raided only Mists

two tiers of Cataclysm

fun folks but meh raids

 

Week 3

sneaky stabby-stab

never leveled one past 10

BG resentments?

 

Week 4

I longed for Vashj’ir

since my days in Desolace

plumbing wat’ry depths

 

WoW under the sea!

Molsan can’t understand me

swimming 3D quests

 

Week 5

Healing as Shadow

from 35 to 80

before LFG

 

so hard to choose one…

desert trolls, sunken temples

fathoms of black depths

 

lost centaur kingdoms

mountain complexes of dwarves

Okay… BRD!

 

Week6 HaikuCouplet favorite quest chain? / I like the one with hog snouts / or flights round the world

Week6 HaikuCouplet Part Deux: no, seriously / I really don’t remember / best just say WrathGate


Mentions

@Lumpythegnome The Day Deathwing Came is the best single quest, but Wrathgate is best chain for me.


Weekly Challenge Update

Onyxia update


Audio Submissions

Satyr Dings First 90

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In the twelfth World of Warcraft podcast episode, we start the new Dominance Offensive dailies and wonder at the mystery that is the Brawler’s Guild. We break down a simple method using Jewelcrafting and Alchemy to consistently make gold. We continue the Spirit of Harmony debate and share a mote of harmony farming spot. Totals for week four of our gold-making challenge are revealed. And we honor a fallen hero, Borgaz, and give thanks to the positive influence he left on our community.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Dominance Offensive

  • While 5.1 only introduces two new factions, Operation: Shieldwall and Dominance Offensive, they’ve got a lot of content attached to them–World PvP, rare spawns, daily quests, and achievements.
  • Krasarang Wilds
    • Meet the Scout; automatically shows up as a quest when you are in the Vale of Eternal Blossoms. From there, you complete The Might of the Warchief with Garrosh… or Varian if you are Alliance.
    • More dailies
  • Deadly cave of mobs!
    • Inside the Lion’s Landing Quarry
  • Rare NPCs
    • There are three rare spawns Horde players can kill in Lion’s Landing that have a chance to drop trinkets and Brawler’s Guild Invitations, as well as many  Lion’s Landing/Domination Point Commission. Killing all three rewards  I’m In Your Base, Killing Your Dudes.
  • Black Prince Rep
  • Advances MoP storyline


Why do I need to get into Brawler’s Guild?

  • Rep Grind?
    • Salty doesn’t know
  • Brawler’s Guild invite is account wide
    • Can get at BMAH, but auctions end at night
    • Can get on regular AH, but avg. price is about 50% higher than BMAH

RIP Borgaz

  • We remember…
    • Sláinte
    • Molsan
    • Grimm

 Borgaz was such a great man. I first met him when he joined our old raid team Floor Tanks in Wrath. He was this amazing hunter that completely tied our team together, always knew what to do, always had what you needed, and always always always gave the shirt off his back to anyone who asked for a spare button, and refused any compensation. We were shocked as a team when we found out he had only been playing the game for less than a year and had never raided when he joined the team, because he played like he’d played the game from day one.

We always got a huge chuckle out of the way he would often mispronounce the names of things in WoW. Those of us from that team still call Orgrimmar, “Orjimmer” :P

Borgaz was with me for the final handful of group quests I needed in Wrath to get my Loremaster title. He spent a good hour with me going all over Icecrown to get it done, and was just thrilled that he got to be a part of me getting the achievement. To this day that night was one of my favorite times of the 7 years I’ve played this game.

Of anyone I’ve ever met in this game, Borgaz was to me the ultimate example of class and kindness. If there was ever a person in AIE who deserved to be Guildie of the Moment, it was him. I’m going to miss him greatly. I’m sending all my well-wishes, prayers, and love to his family. If they are anything like him, they are great, great people.

Guild Recruiting

  • Call from Plastic Duck from Kilrogg
    • Wants to bring lots of characters to Earthen Ring
    • “Now, we get a lot of these requests to join our guild… here’s how you can contact us.”
    • Are we starting a raid team?


Email from Grizzleflotz
I’m a BC baby, new to the podcast community and your show is on my short list of favorites.  You manage to provide excellent information whilst remaining topical and entertaining.  It’s almost tempted me to join the Bitter and Salty guild.  I’ve more than tripled my gold earning capacity since listening and I feel I’ve become a more savvy money manager, so thanks for that.

One question though:  Though there are many items that fluctuate wildly in price throughout an expansion (mats, transmog items, etc.) are there any items that maintain a fairly stable value throughout and are therefore worth relying on for a consistent profit?  There is a seller on my server who farms Scritch for the Hozen Peace Pipes and always lists them for 5k.  I routinely snatch them up and list them for 8-10k and they have always sold–not immediately, but I’ve learned to be patient.  Will the market be renewed with new factions, or did the commendations hurt the market irreparably?  What about craftable pvp items and epics going forward?  It seems like there is a steady influx of new players and alts leveling, even though the main “new expansion rush” is over.

Thanks again for the immensely entertaining show!

–Grizzleflotz AIE

Jewelcrafting and Alchemy

  • Taking lessons learned from gold-making challenge and simplifying my routines
  • Transmute w/ Jewelcrafting + TSM = WIN
  • Multiple layers for transmute procs using Golden Lotus
  • Also looking at Cata gem market and Jasper Ring (level 79 twinks)
  • Prospecting Pyrite Ore; cheaper and more available than Obsidium and Elementium
  • Salty is SOOO meta

Spirit of Harmony: BoE vs. BoP vs. BoA

  • @JetrixAdune Question: If Spirits/motes of Harmony become BOA. For you believe this will affect the mat market more then currently?
  • Follow up: would you also anticipate a surge in the amount of crafted items whose patterns are bought with Spirits?

Gold-Making Tip

  • Call from Plastic Duck from Kilrogg
    • Happy Birthday Jeffery
    • Cave in Kun Lai Summit
    • Drink Potion of Luck… 18 Plundered Treasures in 20 minutes
    • 83 motes of harmony from running the cave
    • Location is Howling Wind Cavern
      • Stolen Sprite Treasure… one of the “secret” items; at back of the cave, a chest that contains over 100 gold and around 200k experience
      • Led here by the quest Cho’s Missive, as part of the Two Empires quest tree

Call from Strumpet

  • Strumpet joins the gold-making challenge?
  • Big score using the Undermine Journal

Gold-Making Challenge – Week 4

  • Molsan
  • Sláinte

Multi-Boxing

  • Call from Jean
    • Jean is dual-boxing and uses the addon Jamba

Blizzcon 2013

  • Molsan predicts dates for Blizzcon 2013: October 18th and 19th. Here’s why.

Mentions
@SpankingBArthur DING! 5th 90 – Shadow Priest, Fathercaster on Proudmoore.

Did a rep-run Molten Core last night & 2 of the new pets dropped. Are you guys doing any of the updated old world stuff?

@Juunoswow Woot! I made 2K gold in ONE week thanks to @bitterandsalty @SaltySlainte @Molsan Thanks guys!!

@Grozlok Ding 75 on Çhip!

@GrimmAIE Exalted with Golden Lotus and 30 factions. Dedicated to Borgaz.

New Google+ Community Page
https://plus.google.com/u/1/communities/111068261985089426634

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Welcome to Episode 4 of the World of Warcraft podcast, Bitter and Salty! In this episode, we discuss various quest mechanics, starting zones, the state of the economy, epic gold-making secrets, and details regarding our first loot giveaway.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Ding 90!

  • Sláinte hits 90!
  • Molsan hits 89ish!

What is your least favorite quest or quest-type (i.e. underwater, killing many for one drop)?

What is your favorite quest or quest-type?

Starting Zones

  • Panda vs. DK vs. Goblin vs. Worgen vs. all the rest?

Archaeology
http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=7612

Epic Gold-Making Secrets

  • Are most people afraid to give away their gold making secrets?
  • Give away your current “secret” gold-making tip

Transmogging

  • Have you started T-Mogging?
  • What will be your T-Mog set?
  • Farming Old World Raids / Dungeons
  • Do you still buy/sell TMog gear?

Auction House / Market

  • Market crashing? What are you doing: buying, selling, holding?
    • Herb market – DMF cards going bonkers, but slowing down a bit
    • Ore market – Ghost Iron Ore supply holding steady; still selling rare uncuts, sparkling shards not selling, and trillium bars getting cheaper

WoW TCG

  • Have you ever played? Do you want to play? Do you care about anything at all? (BC)

Giving Back (BC)

  • We love the support and want to give something back. We will start out with a loot card; As the show grows, what we will give back will get better (game time cards, mounts, etc.)

 

  • Loot Card Giveaway
    • We love Twitter and use it to communicate updates about the show
    • Follow bitterandsalty on Twitter
    • RT the Episode 4 tweet
    • We will select one Twitter handle randomly on HALLOWEEN and DM the code

What’s News?

  • Challenge Mode Gear Effects (BC)
    • Challenge Modes are a new feature in Mists of Pandaria that allows coordinated 5-player groups to jump into Heroic dungeons and attempt to set time-trial records. These blindingly fast times are displayed for all to see, but if being famous on the interwebz wasn’t enough, the groups who can achieve gold medals are also awarded with unique gear looks for use in Transmogrification—with a twist. These gear sets behave like nothing you’ve seen in the game before, activating and reacting to their wearer’s combat actions.
    • http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/7628989
  • WoW Battle Chest 75% Off – This Week Only (BC on behalf of KL)
    • Epic savings await as this week only, the World of Warcraft Battle Chest is available for just $5 in the Blizzard Store.  That’s 75% off the regular price!
    • Recently upgraded to include the Wrath of the Lich King expansion set, the newly updated Battle Chest is a great way to bring a friend to World of Warcraft, or to upgrade an existing Starter Edition account with thousands of additional quests and advancement all the way to level 80. The Battle Chest includes access to hours and hours of award-winning content, opening up the continents of Outland and Northrend for exploration.
    • Don’t delay—this epic deal on the Battle Chest ends Monday, October 29, 2012 at 11:59 p.m. PDT.
    • http://us.battle.net//wow/en/blog/7628988

Calls

Thank you to everyone that called in for episode 4!

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