In the one hundred and sixth World of Warcraft podcast episode, we race to max level only to find all the withered things we need to do to get raid ready, Sláinte dings 110, while Molsan lets his Legion companion app tell him how to play, we rediscover group finder in-game to fight world bosses and complete group quests, we regret raid finder almost as much as Ghostcrawler, and blame LFR for him leaving Blizzard, we run dungeons instead of questing, debate over the best and worst order halls, ask you to hearth to your Garrison before returning to Dalaran, but most of all, we want you to not be disappointed in the World of Warcraft.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you by Molsan and Sláinte.


  • Leveling up for… what?
  • What’s next? World Bossing, Suramar, Artifacting, Keystones, Withered?
  • You ding and… nothing happens; no new talent, no grats in guild chat, etc.

Mobile App Order Halls

  • You can just do these forever… Oh, until you run out of OH resources. GG

Molsan Wonders

  • Why can’t you just get a rez timeout where you die instead of making your corpse-walk through Hightmountain?



Salty is Fishing Again

  • Meta phone screenshot of Salty Salty on a raft
  • Death Knight fishing only on mains kk

Happy Pirate Day

  • Who cares

Group Finder is Awesome

  • Created a group, and within a couple of minutes had help in Stormheim to take down elite quest mobs (Stonefang and the eagle for Rigging the Wager)

Challenge: Leveling Together

  • Fresh hundeyz
  • Demon Hunters

Ghostcrawler Regrets LFR

  • Tweet about him regretting LFR?
  • “To be clear, the goal of getting more players into raiding is a good one. But the way Raid Finder turned out removed, IMO anyway, a lot of the epicness of what made raiding raiding. I also haven’t played WoW in a few years, so it’s entirely possible they have solved the problem by now.”

First Dungeon: Darkheart Thicket

  • Tank was Pally… 110
  • Healer was Pally… 101
  • SP and Rogue were 103… I was 103
  • SP damage was pathetic… was around 24K… I was around 50, Rogue and Pally tank were well above that
  • Great if you are an Herbalist
  • Very linear… looked great
  • Never felt like anything was threatening
  • Gained about 16% xp and got a couple of i730 pieces!!
  • Always thank the tank


  • Before you hearth to start your next quest or talk to Khadgar… Hearth to Garrison first

Best/Worst OH

  • Best… Warrior/DK?
  • Worst… Mage? Rogue? (you can’t mount in either)

Salt Tip

  • Do not be disappoint


Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Slainte” by Tartalo Music (on YouTube and Facebook)

Additional clips of music taken from “Overwatch Soundtrack” by Blizzard Entertainment

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In the forty-third World of Warcraft podcast episode, we are ready for WoW to go free-to-play and are buying the vanity helms from the Blizzard store but not really, the Isle of Thunder is new to those of us that have never been, we talk video card upgrades for multi-monitor gaming, we debate about whether or not the leveling challenge permanently changed us, we are intrigued and confused by flex raiding, we lack focus and try to get back to our normal routines in game, we throw out an idea for what to do with the generous donation to the guild bank, and we choose our one, favorite pet for our Thirty Weeks of World of Warcraft.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Helms of the Blizzard Store

I have lots to say about this and people will not like me or what I have to say. Love, Molsan.

Sláinte Went to Thunder Island!

How was it? Did you do Treasure Room?!?

Any chance we can have a hardware show?

New NVIDIA card: EVGA GTX650Ti

But then I found out I only need one card as the 650 has four outputs.

Audio from Mystery Man

Leveling changed us… we’re not the same

Sláinte keeping DK, Molsan are you?

Molsan: Yes and buying pets after the Foxely debacle

Flex raiding

Looks more and more intriguing the closer it gets into game.

Achievement Roulette Results

Molsan – Done! I now know more about Unga Ingoo than I wanted to know

Sláinte – Thank you WoWHead!

WoW A.D.D.

How to focus on one achievement/FoS/whatever and not get distracted by other shiny things

Auction House Routine

Do you cycle your auctions at the same time? Different days/times? Whenever?

The Big Guild Bank Donation

Ideas on what to do with the gold

Build new Molsan Method that looks up various pet-related achievement (i.e. Raiding with Leashes)… if incomplete, but one ore more pets are owned, we pick players at random and help acquire pets for them.

TWoWoW # 22 Favorite NCP or Hunter Pet

Sláinte – Singing Sunflower, Hunter Pet: A Druid

Molsan – Ghostcrawler

An aquatic pet, Strand Crawler with Surge. That. Is. All.



Grimm: Ethereal Soul Trader



Hey Guys!!

Despite having a growing menagerie of non-combat pets, I have to say that my favourite would have to be my warlock minions. Those guys have been with me through thick and thin! I think I relate to them because they came with their own names, unlike hunter and non-combat pets. I forgot what patch it was, but I was really upset when we got “upgraded” minions, and their names changed; I was quite elated when Blizzard decided to restore their old names!

Naltip my imp would have to see the most action with me, even though I know now that’s really noobish and I should be using my Felhunter.

I think my most appropriately named minion is my Succubus, Heltai. I always read it as Hentai. Deal with it!

ps. Sorry about the radio silence ; internet in the back-blocks of Texas is worse than Australia! Which is the answer for next week – 3 weeks holiday being the longest I’ve gone without playing.

pps Very quick catchup : People, people, warlock, Benediction (yes, on Ashayo v1), any where I win and don’t get constantly killed or stunlocked by a rogue (probably AV)





Mystery Man

TWoWoW #23 The longest you have gone without playing.


Blizzcon Tip #3

Eat outside the box – TRY to go away from walking distance to eat some SoCal favs.

i.e. Habit Burger (Santa Ana is closest). although Subway rulez

Molsan’s Blizzcon Eating Tip #3: ALMONDS


Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Daft Punk Get Lucky (Mexican Monkey Mix)” by Magic Finger

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In the thirtieth World of Warcraft podcast episode, we wonder if we can play the game without the auction house, we recap our official results from the AQ20 challenge, we complete our second Herald of the Titans run for gear, we review what we’ve been putting on the board, we answer the epic question, “Horde or Alliance” for our thirty weeks of World of Warcraft, we explain what the second Molsan Method is all about, and we find out why we’ll never be able to fly in Silvermoon City.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

How We Got Our Blizzcon Tickets
We refreshed and clicked to buy the ticket

Sláinte Ah Ha at AH
Get out!
EGP #46 w/ Zero Hour… Master spreadsheet for determining which markets to be in
Mentioned one of my secret markets: Saronite Ore to Saronite Bar to Titanium Bar

Transmog Market is Dying
Prices falling, can’t stop buying/selling, reducing thresholds and fallbacks

AQ20 Results
– Gold looted: 19
– Grey Items: 167.5
– Repairs: -2.5
– BOP Vendor: 30
– AH Sales: 114
TOTAL: ~328g

1271.69.15 total

Essence of Air from last episode… sold for 150g each

HoTT Gearing Run

Tiller Work Orders Update
Revered with Golden Lotus Unlocks Reps and W.O.

What We Put On the Board
Thanks, Ben!

Do you still have the honeymoon feeling with Mist of Panderia? In episode 1 you were loving the game, was that the peak of the new smell of the xpax? What is your opinion of the xpac 6-9 months into the game.
How is the Warcraft Trading Card game going?

Are pet battles still a time sink? (Episode 1)
Do you still feel that you are still playing WoW the way that you want to? Episode 7, 17:30. Leveling your characters, do the content that you want, are you raiding yet?

Sláinte rep/loremaster grind chat

#TWoWoW Week 9 – Horde or Alliance?




G’day Molster and Slainto!

While most of the time I enjoy the comfort and safety of PvE realms for questing, there is a certain thrill and excitement that I sometimes miss from my days on PvP realms. I know I could flag myself as pvp, but it’s not quite the same and doesn’t produce the same effect. Alot of good times have been had in reaction to guildies getting ganked – the escalating responses from both sides can be a ton of fun. While the same thing can be done in a more organised fashion as seen in Nagrand’s Halaa, it’s not quite as epic.

So strangely, I mostly prefer and play PvE, but find myself arguing the benefits of PvP. Go figure.

It’s scientifically proven that taller people are far superior to their height-challenged cousins.
A recent study found the IQ of alliance players to be a full 3 feet lower than their Horde counterparts.
Lastly, when it comes to the crunch, alliance players tend to pull up short.

For the Horde!
ps I do love short bread cookies though.

Jellad – CTR – Aerie Peak
Hey Guys,

Fell behind again of course, so here are my week 7 and week 8 responses!

Week 7: Favorite Piece of Lore

My favorite piece of lore has to be the introduction to Culling of Stratholme. I think this is a turning point for Arthas’s character from thinking and feeling the evil brewing inside him to bringing it to fruition.  Seeing the change in dynamic where Jana Proudmoor essentially abandons Arthas to his whims introduces a whole new element to the relationships within the alliance.

Week 8: PVP, PVE, RP

I grew up on Eredar, I dont mind PVP, i just hate senseless ganking.  Nothing is more infuriating than trying to level your toon with a max level jerk camping you for an hour(or 4).  I moved away from Eredar because it was just killing my enjoyment of the game.  BG’s are OK, but can get a bit static and boring after a while.  My true love is lore, questing, and raiding.  I would rather spend 10 hours in queue for a raid than actively doing BGa.  As far as RP goes, as a person who frequents Ren Faires, I love me some RP, but its more for fun than anything else, and I dont think I could live on an RP server.  (Although I’ve been thinking about making some Horde on Earthen Ring)

See ya!

I’m bi. Bi-factional that is. I have ally and horde toons but most of my friends play horde. Also, ding’d 11 on my ret pally Kinkerbell in the Bitter and Salty guild

Grimmclaw, AIE Diggnation, Earthen Ring US

I had a really hard time trying to think about my favorite lore in Warcraft, but what I started noticing was that I kept going back to different stories surrounding the Forsaken. So I guess my favorite lore is all the lore surrounding the Forsaken. How they broke away from the Scourge. How they have made a home where they once lived when alive, and you find them referencing their old lives from time to time in quests. How the Light pains them terribly, so any Forsaken priest feels pain when casting holy magic, or any Forsaken warrior is basically having their wounds cauterized during battle. The whole thing with Lillian Voss being a member of the Scarlet Crusade in life, hunting undead, and then becoming one and being hunted by the people she called friends and family herself. All that stuff I find really thought provoking and interesting.
As far as servers, I can’t stand the idea of trying to level while getting ganked. To me that would make the game unplayable. I am a PvE player all the way. I don’t RP, but to me an RP server is interchangeable with a PvE server. So I’m on an RP server, but I pretty much just shrug my shoulders about what that really means.
Horde or Alliance? I’m a life-long Horde player, and will likely stay that way. I wouldn’t mind seeing the quests on the Alliance side, but my time to play makes that unlikely, and I’m fine with that. I will say that I haven’t liked where the Horde has gone under Garrosh, but I’m stoked to knock him off the throne and see where the Horde goes from there.


Flying in Silvermoon

Children’s Week – Get All the Pets

Pet Quest Line
* Piglet’s Collar Stormwind/Orgrimmar Quest Line
* Rat Cage Stormwind/Orgrimmar Quest Line
* Turtle Box Stormwind/Orgrimmar Quest Line
* Snail Shell Stormwind/Orgrimmar Quest Line
* Elekk Training Collar Shattrath Quest Line
* Egbert’s Egg Shattrath Quest Line
* Sleepy Willy Shattrath Quest Line
* Legs Shattrath Quest Line
* Curious Oracle Hatchling Northrend Quest Line
* Curious Wolvar Pup Northrend Quest Line

New Molsan Method
Missing Pets

It looks like it will be easier to collect those  Sigil of Power and  Sigil of Wisdom to catch up on the legendary quest line in Patch 5.3!



Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba.

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Welcome to Episode 6 of the World of Warcraft podcast, Bitter and Salty! In this episode, Molsan thinks he figures out Paladin DPS, story time about the Sha of Anger, alt-playing plans, Trade Skill Master and the economy, making gold with the Tillers and Ironpaw Tokens, and update by Blizzard about the Cinder Kitten, and Ghostcrawler mentions us on Twitter!

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Paladin DPS

VOICE MAIL – Someone Dings in an Elevator

VOICE MAIL – Jean Ding 90 on Elemental Shaman, Ginnger

VOICE MAIL – Daniel Ding 88 on Tremas


  • I moved my Shaman to Pandaria… spec’d Elemental/Resto
  • Playing alts yet? Why or why not?

VOICE MAIL – Jaminbee (Pet Battles/Pet Team, Lorewalkers Guide is Terrible, and Emerald Dream Economy Update)

Trade Skill Master

  • I don’t miss Auctioneer at all
  • GIO, Panda Herbs, w/ FC – 33%
  • Item Posting / Canceling
  • Create categories for items w/ category overrides
  • Essential for AH PvP
  • Get All Scan is extremely quick… fully replaced Auctioneer
  • DMF Cards

VOICE MAIL – Jeppy’s Nat Pagle Question and Buy/Low Sell High

VOICE MAIL – Call letting us know that there are nine items in stock

Tillers / Ironpaw Token Flip

  • Check with Jogu the Drunk for the “Crop of the Day”
  • Next day or two, check for this crop on the AH and buy them cheap
    • You can also use Undermine Journal’s “Cooking” report under “Gathered” to find “From the Farm” items selling below market prices
  • Check “Ironpaw Token Trades” report for cheapest bundle of groceries
  • Turning in a bundle of groceries is repeatable, so you can receive as many Ironpaw Tokens as you want
  • Use the IP tokens to buy Black Pepper, Rice Flour, and/or 100 Year Soy Sauce
    • BoE cooking ingredients that can be sold on the AH
    • Market price for these range from 200-350 gold each


What’s Going on in WoW

  • Fire Kitty pet!
  • Support the Red Cross’s Superstorm Sandy Response relief efforts and adopt a Cinder Kitten when this fiery feline arrives in the Blizzard Store later this year. Your support will enable the Red Cross to provide shelter, food, emotional support, and other assistance to survivors of disasters like Superstorm Sandy with 100% of the $10 USD adoption fee during this charity drive going toward this worthy cause.
  • More details coming soon.

More Dings and Achievements

BrewDawg @BruDog
@SaltySlainte @bitterandsalty hit revered with Anglers. Just 10 more skill points & I can use the raft!

Rexxxor69 @Grozlok
@bitterandsalty Willitburn is 1 daily away from exalted with order of the cloud serpents. Will ding late tonught.

Grimm @GrimmAIE
@bitterandsalty tweeting in w/ an achievement: leveled Leatherworking from 0 to 600 w/o a Skinner! Huge thanks to Slainte, Illmar, Tanasttia and Tackle for helping provide mats!

VOICE MAIL – Scott Satyr69 Dings 87  and uses Raptr
VOICE MAIL – Strumpet101 Ding


  • Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba.

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Welcome to Episode 5 of the World of Warcraft podcast, Bitter and Salty! In this episode, we we talk about what dailies we are doing, the archaeology artifact exchange, what to spend gold on, and we fawn over our good friend, Ghostcrawler.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Molsan dings 90!

  • Getting flying was not intuitive… rant time!
  • Tried to queue for Scenarios but iLevel was too low… rant time!

Dailies / Factions


What are you doing with your gold? Mounts?

  • MoP 108K mount… what/where is it?
  • Crimson Deathcharger average price is also ~100K gold
  • Buying vendor mounts vs. epic drop mounts
  • HH Mount is a Lie. Statistics show it would take 14.5 years to get.

Heroics and Raiding

  • Sláinte rant about Heroics and Raiding and feeling inadequate.


  • Sláinte and GhostCrawler have a chat about flying in Silvemoon, TWITTER REVOLTS!!

What’s Going On in WoW

  • Hallow’s End is over… The Day of the Dead is Here… and Gone
    • When: November 1st-November 2nd
    • Where: Graveyards of all Capital Cities (Stormwind, Ironforge, Darnassus, Exodar, Orgrimmar, Undercity, Silvermoon City, Thunderbluff, Shattrath City, and Dalaran City)
    • A few quests and one achievement
    • Macabre Marionette pet
      • a small pet that looks like a skeleton wearing a sombrero and holding a pair of maracas. This pet can only be used during the Day of the Dead event – it cannot be learned and kept like other non-combat pets.

Show Announcements

  • Rexor dings exalted with BS guild

TCG Loot Giveaway Winner

  • How the contest went?
  • New listener achievements and future giveaways
  • What Sláinte said was wrong
    • RAF is 2 months
    • Anyone can socket


Thank you to everyone that called in for episode 5!


  • Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba.

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