In the seventy-sixth World of Warcraft podcast episode, we learn that Normal raiding is difficult and near impossible when an LFR Retribution Paladin is in your group, Molsan has fun in SO 3 setting up groups, portal-jumping boxes, and playing with his cogwheel, Sláinte gets booted out of the Blizzcon-ticket waiting room and throws a fit on the Internet, we configure and track drop-rate statistics with MobInfo2, and we place our brand new copy of “War Crimes” on our bookshelf.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.


Low Retribution DPS, too much loot talk, and stepping on prisons

SoO3 Recap

Started telling the raid that it was my first time in SoO3… No response

Was yelled at immediately for not tanking engineers or w/e

Spoiled the Spoils… Box tanking and cog wheel PvP

Asked other tank to split groups and he said “no”

Blizzcon is Awesome

Eventbrite is not

MobInfo2 AddOn


One of my all-time favorites… had forgotten to enable settings to group mobs together (“Combine Same Mobs”)

On the Database tab, I change loot item data quality to “Grey & Better” to show all the stats


Then it looks like this:


War Crimes

Crimes against Gnomeregan

Salty’s LOA

An Announcement of sorts


Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Everything Is Awesome!!! (Instrumental Sing-A-Long)” by Mark Mothersbaugh

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Phone: 413 BIT SALT or 413 248 7258
Molsan Method:



In the fifty-seventh World of Warcraft podcast episode, we recap the epic event that was Blizzcon 2013 and share what we loved and what we’d like to see improved for next year’s Blizzcon, Molsan gets back to basics and reveals his major plans for his Paladin in the next expansion, we talk about the changes to raiding and how Blizzard is using Flex to kill off LFR once and for all, we share the secrets behind mousewheeling a Windwalker Monk through Pandaria, we drop the no-realm-firsts bomb to Sláinte’s disappointment, and we announce the Community’s new favorite segment: the Thirty Weeks of Warlords of Draenor.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Blizzcon Recap

WoD announcement… we totally called it except for the Druid stuff

WoD hands-on play recap

Panels, games, goodie bags, and more


Salty’s Flex Team

5 Seconds of Flex

Mousewheel Monk

Windwalker rotation macro:

#showtooltip Jab
/targetenemy [noharm][dead]
/castsequence reset=0.3 1,2,3,4,Tiger Palm
/castsequence reset=0.3 1,2,3,Blackout Kick
/castsequence reset=0.3 1,2,Jab, Jab
/castsequence reset=0.3 1,Rising Sun Kick
/cast [combat]Chi Wave
/cast [combat]Expel Harm
/cast [combat]Tigereye Brew
/cast [combat]Energizing Brew
/use 13
/use 14

Thirty Weeks of Warlords of Draenor

Weekly topic about the new World of Warcraft expansion, Warlords of Draenor

No Realm Firsts

Sláinte is disappoint.


Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Back in Time” by Huey Lewis and the News

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Phone: 413 BIT SALT or 413 248 7258
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In the fortieth World of Warcraft podcast episode, we exclude ourselves from being included on getting legendary cloaks in patch 5.4, we disagree with the claim that WoW is only about end-game, we stalk, err, track each others Death Knight Double Agent leveling progress, we admit that we’re making gold to help us level but state that this is not a gold-making challenge, we use the gold we make in the race for the three-piece heirloom set, and we choose our favorite class for our Thirty Weeks of World of Warcraft.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Legendary Cloaks

Animations are cool… but interesting that they are required to defeat new world boss in 5.4

The war to balance the including and excluding of players rages on

Is WoW All About End-Game?

We’re leveling and having fun but are we doing it wrong?

Experience Tracking

Alliance vs Horde PUGs

Are they different or the same

Interesting LFD stories

Molsan’s DK kicked from Nexus group… So proud!

N00b DK Tips

Sláinte is still a n00b and needs tips. I just mash buttons!!

Glyphs? What about em? Oh yeah… I guess I should buy some.

WTH is Blood Tap

Complaint that Leveling Challenge is Gold-Making Challenge

Are we making gold or spending gold?

The Heirloom Race

Requirements and cost

Dark Moon Faire Wheeeeeeeee… and ticket grinding?

DMF: Use only 1 ticket and have unlimited buff…

DMF Level 25 Pet Battle daily… getting over 30K experience per victory! Easy with SoC, Fel Flame, and Lil XT

Call from Double Agent Strumpet

TWoWoW Week 19 Favorite Class

Sláinte – Was going to say Paladin, thought about it more and still says Paladin

Molsan – Paladin… No, Death Knight. No, really, Paladin.


Tanasttia from Earthen Ring, Alea Iactus E Pluribus Unum.

I am woefully behind on the 30 Weeks of WoW.

[But, I have a plan. I will start doing audio submissions this weekend, with one or two catch-ups each week as well as the current week’s question.]

However, after finishing up Episode 39 this evening, I found I could not delay answering this newest question: Favorite Class.

WARLOCK! without a doubt!

First, warlocks have the coolest spell of all: Rain of Fire. Nothing is nearly as viscerally satisfying.

I remember when my warlock Mairabelle was just a wee little nub, traversing the Barrens on foot, and a herd of gazelle, mostly fawns, came bounding by. Without a moment’s hesitation, I dropped my Rain of Fire on these innocents and immediately fell in love with my class.

Second, warlocks are intimately connected with the lore in a way that surpasses all other classes (except maybe druids, but of course they suck). Warlocks are at the heart of the initial conflicts of Warcraft.

Third, warlocks are an “underground class” (similar to rogues, but yeah, rogues also suck). The trainers are usually hidden away, and some of the initial class quests talk about how warlocks are despised by the Warchief yet tolerated in small numbers.

Fourth, they’ve had some of the best class quests in the game, to get the mount, to get the minions, etc. Those have been removed, but now we’ve got the green fire quest, so Yeah!

Fifth, well, there’s too much awesomeness to explain. Overall, they’re fascinating lore-wise and they have a huge toolbox!

(and yes it kind of ticks me off to hear someone talk about a one-button warlock rotation… ahem.)






TWoWoW Week 20  Your favorite or most sought after loot and whether you got it?



Good afternoon gentleman!

I just wanted to say that I really thoroughly enjoy the podcast you guys produce every week. I hadn’t heard of it until a little while back Koltrane had mentioned you guys on Convert to Raid, and I’m glad he did. You guys have quickly become one of the top 3 favorite podcasts that my fiance and I listen to. I haven’t made it through all your back episodes yet, but hopefully by the end of the week I will have made it through all 39 shows. So I just wanted to say keep up the good work, I look forward to each episode, it’s definitely more enjoyable than mining my own ore.

I did have one question. What does it take to join the fabled “Bitter & Salty” guild? Just a little backstory, my friends and I have played WoW since launch, though we did take a break for 6 months to try the new Star Wars MMO. When we came back, our old guild had pretty much died out and we decided to join the Convert to Raid guys on Aerie Peak. This was a huge change as we had all been Horde only for 7-8 years. While I love the CTR guild, I do miss all things Horde-side, and have thought about starting a new tauren up on Earthen Ring. Not to play hardcore, but just to relax and enjoy the game in a casual, friendly guild and the ways you guys talk so well of your guildmates, well, it sounds like a guild I’d love to be in. So, is there a secret handshake? Do I need references to submit forms in triplicate? Do I just need to flat out bribe you with money?

Thanks for your time guys!

Rhett – CTR, Aerie Peak

For the AlliHordeAnce!

Pet Giveaway

Pandaren Fire Spirit – July 19th @ 10:00am

Rules: Mention @bitterandsalty with pancakes, waffles, or french toast for an entry into the pet giveaway contest (US realms only).


Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Daft Punk Get Lucky (Mexican Monkey Mix)” by Magic Finger

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In the eighth World of Warcraft podcast episode, we get into some guild back story, DPSing the Sha of Anger part II, rare items for “Lost and Found,” auction house PvP walls, and we begin a new gold-making challenge.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Story / Rant Time

  • Guild Talk
    • All hugs and kisses
    • Bitter and Salty now level 6!
  • Sha of Anger Part II: Pally DPS!
    • Is the Sha considered “raiding?”
    • Is getting tier gear considered “raiding?”
  • Molsan’s Living Steel Daily Quest
    • Why don’t raiders provide crafted materials/gear for their fellow raiders?
    • Is raiding still about showing up 100% prepared, or do raiders help each other?

More Secrets

Auction House PvP

  • Posting low to get bulk-posters to undercut way below market price
    • Example: Carp sells for 2-2.5 gold ea in various stack sizes
    • Post 1 carp @ 1 gold and wait for folks to undercut the 1g per carp price
    • Then buy all the carps!
  • Instead of making gold, do you ever try and alter the market?

Gold-Making Challenge

  • From Daniel… Pick a realm we have no chars on and a deadline (10 days /played?). Start with nothing and see who can make the most gold


  • Strumpet hits Revered with The Tillers!
  • Jean‘s Monk dings level 85!
  • Rexor’s Monk (Chip) dinged exalted with <Bitter and Salty> guild!


  • iTunes Review from Jerome
    • Molsan and Salty, who both were on an old, retired podcast I listened to have moved on to greener pastures, and have put together a terrific show about World of Warcraft. Tips, opinions, gripes, gratz, and more on every show make me laugh, nod, disagree, and cheer, not necessarily all in that order.
    • And of course, the last three minutes of every episode are the best part.
    • Great show, guys. Keep it up!

What we are Thankful For…

Audio Submission

  • Thank you to Lil Miss Salty for the audio intro!


  • Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba.

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Welcome to Episode 6 of the World of Warcraft podcast, Bitter and Salty! In this episode, Molsan thinks he figures out Paladin DPS, story time about the Sha of Anger, alt-playing plans, Trade Skill Master and the economy, making gold with the Tillers and Ironpaw Tokens, and update by Blizzard about the Cinder Kitten, and Ghostcrawler mentions us on Twitter!

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Paladin DPS

VOICE MAIL – Someone Dings in an Elevator

VOICE MAIL – Jean Ding 90 on Elemental Shaman, Ginnger

VOICE MAIL – Daniel Ding 88 on Tremas


  • I moved my Shaman to Pandaria… spec’d Elemental/Resto
  • Playing alts yet? Why or why not?

VOICE MAIL – Jaminbee (Pet Battles/Pet Team, Lorewalkers Guide is Terrible, and Emerald Dream Economy Update)

Trade Skill Master

  • I don’t miss Auctioneer at all
  • GIO, Panda Herbs, w/ FC – 33%
  • Item Posting / Canceling
  • Create categories for items w/ category overrides
  • Essential for AH PvP
  • Get All Scan is extremely quick… fully replaced Auctioneer
  • DMF Cards

VOICE MAIL – Jeppy’s Nat Pagle Question and Buy/Low Sell High

VOICE MAIL – Call letting us know that there are nine items in stock

Tillers / Ironpaw Token Flip

  • Check with Jogu the Drunk for the “Crop of the Day”
  • Next day or two, check for this crop on the AH and buy them cheap
    • You can also use Undermine Journal’s “Cooking” report under “Gathered” to find “From the Farm” items selling below market prices
  • Check “Ironpaw Token Trades” report for cheapest bundle of groceries
  • Turning in a bundle of groceries is repeatable, so you can receive as many Ironpaw Tokens as you want
  • Use the IP tokens to buy Black Pepper, Rice Flour, and/or 100 Year Soy Sauce
    • BoE cooking ingredients that can be sold on the AH
    • Market price for these range from 200-350 gold each


What’s Going on in WoW

  • Fire Kitty pet!
  • Support the Red Cross’s Superstorm Sandy Response relief efforts and adopt a Cinder Kitten when this fiery feline arrives in the Blizzard Store later this year. Your support will enable the Red Cross to provide shelter, food, emotional support, and other assistance to survivors of disasters like Superstorm Sandy with 100% of the $10 USD adoption fee during this charity drive going toward this worthy cause.
  • More details coming soon.

More Dings and Achievements

BrewDawg @BruDog
@SaltySlainte @bitterandsalty hit revered with Anglers. Just 10 more skill points & I can use the raft!

Rexxxor69 @Grozlok
@bitterandsalty Willitburn is 1 daily away from exalted with order of the cloud serpents. Will ding late tonught.

Grimm @GrimmAIE
@bitterandsalty tweeting in w/ an achievement: leveled Leatherworking from 0 to 600 w/o a Skinner! Huge thanks to Slainte, Illmar, Tanasttia and Tackle for helping provide mats!

VOICE MAIL – Scott Satyr69 Dings 87  and uses Raptr
VOICE MAIL – Strumpet101 Ding


  • Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba.

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