In the seventieth World of Warcraft podcast episode, we release our frustrations and explain what happened with the Warlords of Draenor expansion December date, we continue to value loot and raid progression over inviting friends to flex, Molsan stays classy while watching Druids Moonfire themselves, Sláinte gets reported after taking someone’s mount in Vortex Pinnacle, we consider stockpiling items for the expansion and hope to use the new global price feature of TSM to help us make more gold, and one of us has rolled an Alliance Gnome Death Knight.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Draynoer “Release Date”

But what does it mean?

Does it make you want to go on hiatus or get all alts prepped and ready for expansion packs?

Did any characters get a boost?

Stay Classy Not Classy

Strumpet changes char to Tauren and upsets people

Blood Elf Monk update… Feralas is for Skinning and Dire Maul Ogres

Left out of Raiding

Why raid when you can watch someone else stream their own raid?

Sláinte’s PUG Mount Adventure

Were you about to call me an @$$hole?!?

WTH GNOME DK

Treat Yo Self

Hearthsteed mount

What kinds of things can I buy with gold

Is it too early to stockpile for Warlords?

Battle Pets from MoP raids and the Timeless Isle

TSM Application Closed Beta

Updates to the TSM desktop application:

“In addition to updating AuctionDB’s market value and min buyout prices for the realms you have selected, the application will update AuctionDB with a handful of new global market prices. These are based on horde and alliance across US and EU combined.”

According to Sapu, “This tells you exactly what people are paying for a given item. The way we are determining this is unique to TSM, and extremely accurate compared to TUJ and similar websites.”

http://stormspire.net/official-tradeskillmaster-development-forum/13836-tradeskillmaster-application-closed-beta.html

Music

Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Epic Sax Guy [Original] HD” by SunStroke Project

Contact Info

Email: podcast@bitterandsalty.com
Phone: 413 BIT SALT or 413 248 7258
Molsan Method: http://molsanmethod.com

Twitter

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In the sixty-sixth World of Warcraft podcast episode, we fail miserably at Herald of the Titans and complain about all the things we did wrong, we commit ourselves to properly preparing for the next raid by leveling Cooking to make Seafood Manifiques, we ask all the pet battle and pet collecting questions you could ever want or stand to listen to including what it means to be a true collector, we level more alts to help other guilds Stay Classy, and we blow our minds by resetting all of the events of the Cataclysm.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Herald of the Titans

Did it happen?!?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Herald of the Titans Prep

Leveling professions

No head enchants

Min DPS? 5K?

Fortune Cookie to be made, NO, SALTY MAKING FEASTS!!!!!

Gemmed BEFORE raid

GEARED, as in have your gear on before raid

Potions, potions, potions… and flasks

Dying stars = AOE RAID DAMAGE

WE CARRY NO ONE

Leveling that Cooking at 80

You can’t do anything

There Will be Blood

ToCrusader

Sláinte Interview

All the questions that weren’t asked on APA

Pet Collecting Etiquette

Buying Pets

The list

How I track what I have and don’t have

Leveling!

Panda Mage

Blood Elf Monk

Mining

NEXT WEEK: TWoWoD Week 8 – Nagrand and the Warsong Clan led by Grommash

Music

Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Epic Sax Guy [Original] HD” by SunStroke Project

Contact Info

Email: podcast@bitterandsalty.com
Phone: 413 BIT SALT or 413 248 7258
Molsan Method: http://molsanmethod.com

Twitter

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http://twitter.com/molsan
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In the sixty-fifth World of Warcraft podcast episode, we level exclusively as Pandaren for cross-guild Stay Classy action, we spread our diseases in Siege of Orgrimmar and Throne of Thunder on our Death Knight tanks, we declare ourselves ready for Herald of the Titans once and for all, we question the validity of auction house pricing data and consider manual item and price scanning, we discuss Blizzard’s plan for dungeons and bosses in the next expansion, and we break all the Shadowmoon Burial Ground news for our Thirty Weeks of Warlords of Draenor.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Pandaren Leveling

Mages! Hunters! Warriors!

Stay Classy Update

There Will Be Blood

Mildly successful tanking of third boss in ToT1, the Council of Elders

Icecrown Citadel 10 and the Gunship

Herald of the Titans NEXT WEEK

Are we ready?

http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=3316/herald-of-the-titans#comments

Auction House Markets

What’s up with the pricing sources these days?

Why not just manually scan and use dbMarket?

What do players spend gold on these days?

TWoWoD Week 7 – Dungeon – Shadowmoon Burial Grounds

Sláinte to reveal all

21-27 dungeons with average number of bosses (145) in Vanilla: 6.9-5.37

16 dungeons with average number of bosses (54-57) in BC: 3.38-3.56

16 dunegons with average number of bosses (64-68) in WotLK: 4-4.25

14 dungeons with average number of bosses in Cata: 4.75

9 dungeons with average number of bosses in MoP: 3.67

TWoWoD Week 8 – Nagrand and the Warsong Clan led by Grommash

Music

Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Epic Sax Guy [Original] HD” by SunStroke Project

Contact Info

Email: podcast@bitterandsalty.com
Phone: 413 BIT SALT or 413 248 7258
Molsan Method: http://molsanmethod.com

Twitter

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http://twitter.com/molsan
http://twitter.com/saltyslainte

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In the sixty-third World of Warcraft podcast episode, we ring in the new year by destroying everything with TSM_Destroying, Molsan runs Ulduar 25 on his Hunter and gears up for HotT raiding but has to give up his pants, we ask about in-game pet gifting etiquette, we give out our WoW year’s resolutions and announce changes to the show format, we learn about Gul’dan and the Stormreaver Clan for our Thirty Weeks of Warlords of Draenor, and we conduct and intense, revealing, one-on-one interview with the one and only Salty Sláinte.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

TSM_Destroying

Goodbye disenchanting/milling/prospecting macros!!

All you need is this add on and the macro to call /click TSMDestroyButton

Will auto-queue up items that can be destroyed based on your profession

Can shift-click to hide items during a session or permanently

Tales from Ulduar 25

Teabiscuit, the Mighty Cow and the Tier Pants

The Astral Walker

Gearing Hunter for HotT… Can’t wait!!

Holiday Greeting from Strumpet

Random Gift-Giving Etiquette

Giving out pets people already have… Is it okay to return them or do you HAVE to learn them again?

WoW Year’s Resolutions

Interviews and Guests!!

TWoWoD Week 5 – Shadowmoon Valley and the Stormreaver Clan led by Gul’dan

Interview with Gul’dan

  • With the assistance of the Shadow Council, worked with Medivh to open the Dark Portal between Azeroth and Draenor

  • Gul’dan along with Cho’gall manipulated the Horde as they waged war on Azeroth

  • Gul’dan manipulated the election of Blackhand as the first Warchief of the Horde

  • Upon learning of an attack on Medivh at Karazhan, Gul’dan entered a psychic link with Medivh’s mind and was put into a coma when Medivh was slain by Khadgar, Lothar, and Garona

Who are the Stormreaver Clan?

  • We don’t know if the Stormreaver Clan was founded during the First War or Second War

  • Small but powerful group whose purpose was to protect Gul’dan from Orgrim Doomhammer

  • During the Second War of the Eastern Kingdoms, they intended to find the lost tomb of Sargeras

  • Gul’dan and the Stormreavers abandoned the Siege of Lordaeron, raised the Tomb of Sargeras from the bottom of the Great Sea, and attempted to steal the demonic power from the tomb for their own. According to the promise of the tomb, It would have made Gul’dan a god

  • (it was in fact the promise of the Tomb of Sargeras that led Gul’dan to first open the Dark Portal).

  • Gul’dan himself was later torn apart by the Tomb’s Guardians, at the very threshold of the Eye Chamber (once the Courtyard of the Moon), and his armies destroyed by the enraged legions of Orgrim Doomhammer, who had been forced to break off their assault on Lordaeron in order to deal with Gul’dan’s treachery.

What’s up with Shadowmoon Valley?

  • Official description from Blizzard: “Hidden under a shroud of perpetual night broken only by bright starlight, the lush, idyllic forests of Shadowmoon Valley are home to a majestic draenei tomb and sanctuary: Karabor. While many of Shadowmoon’s denizens study prophecy among Karabor’s ancient stone circles, plotters with darker ambitions lurk in the valley’s vast underground cave network, gazing greedily at the sacred temple.”

  • This is what we played at Blizzcon, right?

  • Karabor is the Draenei tomb and sanctuary… that later becomes the Black Temple

  • Very blue… like Zangarmarsh, but looks like Azuremyst Isle

Email

Kadabro

Hi Molsan and Slainte,

So glad you accepted my request to join the B&S guild. I’ve listened to the show every week since about episode 30 and have since gone back and listened to all other eps (I play WOW with no music with B&S going in the background). I’m an Australian WOW player who refuses to play on anything but US servers and due to the time difference I have gotten very used to playing alone, questing alone, logging on when I am only guildie online (out of a guild of sometimes 400+ members) but funnily enough, this podcast and guild has made me feel like I’ve finally found some people who ‘get’ WOW.  Without gushing too much, I just have to say the greatness of your show and your refreshing and down to earth perspective on WOW has left me with 2 questions:

“I wonder how much more I would’ve enjoyed this game had I known about podcasts in general and/or had your show been on the Net back say, 6 years ago?”

and

“Why didn’t I give the Horde a proper chance till now when I rolled a Troll Druid on Earthen Ring solely to join the B&S guild? The Horde aren’t filthy scoundrels as I once thought, they’re deep and misunderstood…when they’re not chopping down Ashenvale.”

Enough butt-kissing – time for Thrall and Aggra.

Playing only Alliance toons till this year meant I knew very little about Thrall but funnily enough I went back on my Nelf Hunter (my main) and did the Hyjal/Deepholm/Uldum quest where he gets kidnapped and Aggra and I brought him back. I now see why so many people idolize him and seeing his feelings for his true love Agra – and him wanting little green babies with her – solidified that. Varian is nowhere near as interesting or deep and one wonders if he would share the same resolve that Thrall does to lay down his title of King and fight for the planet rather than for the good of the Alliance? Thrall is far too awesome to lead the Horde… he is destined for far greater things. Thrall and Cenarius vs Ragnaros in Hyjal was amazing. As for Aggra, her influence on his Shamanistic skills and life is only positive and makes their story and more importantly, their son. so much more interesting. I for one would love to see how Anduin and Durak (Thrall’s son) interact and how their story is played out in future expansions or possibly…. the next WOW game!

That’s it from me – stay classy and please invite my Hunter to the guild when I server/race change him to Earthen Ring!

Zahbs. Orc Hunter on Arthas-US

hey guys!

First time writing in. Stumbled on the show (luckily!) on the very first 30 weeks of WoW and have been tuning in every week since. Anyhow.

I completely agree that WoD should and will hopefully be all about character development. Too many amazing heros and even more bad ass villains have fell by the way-side by blizz. More Sylvanas! More Orc tribe leaders! But most of all, as a hunter since start of BC till Today…REXXAR! I mean his home planet is dranor. Hes half orc and half ogre…that sounds like WoD to me. He was deemed a “champion of the horde” by thrall back in warcraft 3. Would love to see what he does back home to prevent the terrible place that what we know as “Outlands” from ever existing

Thanks guys, keep up the great work!

TWoWoD Week 6 – Mythic and Flex Raiding and Raid Finder

Q&A with Sláinte

With all the cross-realm and realm merge changes… why do we still need guilds?

With all the b.net friend stuffs, raid finder tools and what not… no need for guilds, right?

After you complete something you’ve been working at for so long, do you ever miss some of your routines like dailies? Do you miss the factions and quest-givers?

Doesn’t playing and talking about PvP / battlegrounds mean that you’re bored with the game right now?

What is your biggest raiding pet peeves?

How are your profession cooldowns (Sky Golems and ingots) coming along?

What have you been doing since you received your Legendary Cloak? Have you done Ordos or Garrosh yet?

Call from Lagerhoof – Week 8 of Favorite BBQ

Call from Strumpet – Week 8 Favorite BBQ

Music

Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Ylvis – The Fox (Karaoke/Instrumental)” by danielh7052 and The Knack My Sharona THE BEST instrumental version by Rodrigo B.V.

Contact Info

Email: podcast@bitterandsalty.com
Phone: 413 BIT SALT or 413 248 7258
Molsan Method: http://molsanmethod.com

Twitter

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In the sixty-second World of Warcraft podcast episode, we are enjoying all of the festivities of our feast of Winter’s Veil, we clean out our inventory and get rid of orange slices to prepare for the expansion, now that we have the Tillers and Garrisons we ask that all gathering professions be removed from the game, Sláinte gets two legendary cloaks, while Molsan begins farming for a Ravasaur mount, we use Trade Skill Master to destroy all the gear and make gold flipping Enchanting mats, we change our schedule for HOT raiding… again, and we embrace the relationship between Aggra and Thrall for our Thirty Weeks of Warlords of Draenor.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Happy Winter Veil to All!

All the Small Eggs

Things to Do Before WoD

Clean out your bags and inventory

Noob Tip: Keep your sack clean

No need to keep things like Hallow’s End wands and Tiller tabards

Gathering? GONE!

Get rid of all gathering professions on all characters

Tillers and Garrisons

Where can I farm Windwool? Tillers, duh!

Tailoring Celestial Cloth

Pattern dropped within 5 minutes of Timeless Isle stuffs

Grinding this daily for Warlock PvP Gear

Please send me Spirits of War kk thx yw

TSM Destroy for Enchanting

Having more fun with the AH

HotT Raiding

Are we prepare?

No show on 12/23???

Evanca Dings 90

Huge grats!! Now what?

Goblin Warrior and the Venomhide Ravasaur

Ungoro Crater finished… not quite ready for SMV

CollectMe said it was another missing mount

Should have brought a skinner

Should have used a character at-level… Get no XP for kills or quest turn-ins now

LFR/SoO3 Update

Malkorok down… After a 1% wipe, of course

TWoWoD Week 4 – Aggra and Thrall

Who is Aggra? http://www.wowwiki.com/Aggra

What happened in Cataclysm?

What is their relationship now?

Why is this a big deal for WoD?

Who is Zaela? http://www.wowwiki.com/Warlord_Zaela

Who is Draka? http://www.wowwiki.com/Draka

Who is Geyah? http://www.wowwiki.com/Greatmother_Geyah

https://twitter.com/WowDotBen/status/412774715283894272

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Juuno

Hello darlings! So…Aggra and Thrall, ohhhh how the rumors flew when they met! She thought he was a complete block-head, and he totally agreed so she married him. That’s the way it usually goes, you know. ;)  And that wedding! Talk about gorgeous! It totally made me cry. And now they’re having puppies! Orcs have babies by the litter, she’ll probably have 7 or 8 at once, and they’ll be SO cute! You’ll just want to take them all home, but if you do they’ll literally eat you out of house & home and eat all of your furniture, too. That’s why Thrall has to leave Aggra at home in the next expansion…they need more money and nobody will babysit a litter of orc babies. Ok, I gotta go! I hope you’re both having a great week!

/great big hugs,

VOL JIN

Hey dere, I heard ju wanted ta know what Aggra an’ Thrall be up ta. Ta put et simply, Aggra wants ta go ta Draenor, but Thrall ‘as told her dat et be unsafe for dem an’ dey don’t know what to be expectin’ on da other side of de Dark Portal.

Once a clear path ‘as been made an’ da portal connecting our worlds be under our control, den an’ only den would Thrall allow Aggra ta make da trip. Thrall did not make dis decision lightly, he knows danger kin be around every corner wit Garrosh dere, but we all know dere be no holdin’ Aggra back once her mind be made.

Rest assured, dat we will be seein’ Aggra visit Draenor, sooner or later.

Jur Warchief,

Vol’jin

TWoWoD Week 5 – Shadowmoon Valley and the Stormreaver Clan led by Gul’dan

psylent Night WINNER OF PUP 

Music

Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Baby It’s Cold Outside (Instrumental)” by Ameritz Backing Tracks

Contact Info

Email: podcast@bitterandsalty.com
Phone: 413 BIT SALT or 413 248 7258
Molsan Method: http://molsanmethod.com

Twitter

http://twitter.com/bitterandsalty
http://twitter.com/molsan
http://twitter.com/saltyslainte

Music

Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Contact Info

Email: podcast@bitterandsalty.com
Phone: 413 BIT SALT or 413 248 7258
Molsan Method: http://molsanmethod.com

Twitter

http://twitter.com/bitterandsalty
http://twitter.com/molsan
http://twitter.com/saltyslainte

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