In the one hundred and second World of Warcraft podcast episode, we return to Karazhan once again, for the third or fourth time, to visit our old friend Moroes, we calculate the version number for the Legion expansion that drops between 7.0 and 7.1 and determine the exact number of bosses that appear in the refurbished Karazhan dungeon raid, we learn that every single Alliance player was at the bottom of the gunship that abandoned Varian Wrynn as we break down the pre-patch, in-game cut-scene cinematics once again, we compare one disappointing Mage to one inspiring Warlock, and re-roll all of our talents to destruction out of pure embarrassment, and we completely redesign the World of Warcraft loot system, by removing all loot from the game.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you by Molsan and Sláinte.

RETURN TO KARAZHAN OMG

• “Karazhan is coming back as a large five player dungeon with all nine bosses”
• What did we see… Was this a pre-patch, pre-expansion, teaser before the expansion is even released? Blizzard is even confused… WE ARE ALREADY IN LEGION
• Was that Moroes in the 7.1 teaser video?
• We get nine bosses… Are we sure they are the same? Final boss will be Medivh?
• Was this just to get folks to re-sub to play the best raid ever once again?
• “This time around there won’t be a content drought” WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN

Blog Comment from Vlor

Hey guys.
Clearly Varian sacrificed himself to save us, our characters are on the ship. Just like Sylvanas retreated to save the horde players. It’s so obvious and you keep saying Varian didnt have to do it, such $%&#(*!%.

Cinematic Reactions Continued

• So the Alliance players were at the bottom of the gunship doing who knows what
• Didn’t hear the Demon Fel Reaver?
• Jaina is a failure

Invasion Leveling

• Why level a Hunter during Invasions? Is good?
• Affliction vs. Destruction DPS… Zhend is inspiration
• Warforged armor from invasions LOL

KatGhar is Back!

• So while his Alliance friends were attacking demons alone, he was busy moving Dalaran to Karazhan
• Why? Was it too far for him to teleport or ride a mount?
• Jaina doesn’t want the Horde in Dalaran so she ragequits after the vote

LFR and Valor

• Blackrock Foundry is on farm with Warlock

Molsan Suggests is Canceled for New Segment… Molsan Designs WoW

• Change how loot works completely
• Raids and dungeons ONLY drop/unlock cosmetic appearances

Email from Vaygon

Hey guys, great podcast again.

However I couldn’t help but notice Salty butcher the pronunciation of Tirion Fordring’s name a few times during the show. It’s Ford-Ring… NOT Forge-Ling, lol that makes him sound like a battle pet or something :p

Anyhow keep up the good work.

Voicemail from Strumpet

• Postal – https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/postal

Salty Tip for Blizzcon

• No frustration about Warcraft content

Music

Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Slainte” by Tartalo Music (on YouTube and Facebook)

Additional clips of music taken from “Overwatch Soundtrack” by Blizzard Entertainment

Contact Info

Email: podcast@bitterandsalty.com
Phone: 413 BIT SALT or 413 248 7258
Molsan Method: http://molsanmethod.net

Twitter

http://twitter.com/bitterandsalty
http://twitter.com/molsan
http://twitter.com/saltyslainte

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In the one hundred and first World of Warcraft podcast episode, we invade Azeroth with the Legion, and recall our experiences from both the Horde and Alliance perspectives, we wonder what Demon Hunters are like as we check the order status of the physical copy of the expansion, we recommend visiting the Darkmoon Faire on or before Legion for quests, tickets, and cards, Slainte cheats in heroics by climbing up walls and topping meters, Molsan ponders switching mains from Paladin to Warlock… or Warrior, but not Rogue, we visit our buddy Kael’thas who decides to drop two mounts after eight years of farming old content, and we reveal the true savior of World of Warcraft: Legion… Garrisons.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you by Molsan and Sláinte.

Legion is Here

• Invasion events
• All spoilers go here
• We called everything
  • ____’s _____
  • ____’s _____
  • _______ the Warchief
  • _______ the King of Alliance?
  • All the Gnomes are dead, and you can now harvest druids for Legion herbs
  • We called it all!!
• Do you believe in “Victory or Death”
  • So what happened… Did the Horde/Sylvanas betray the Alliance or are Alliance just stupid?
• What are DH’s like?
  • DKs officially replaced
  • What is name of your DH
• Jeremy Feasel from PCGamer interview
  • So much content scaling by level… Legion invasions scale “from level 10 to 100. So anybody that’s in that zone that’s even just leveling up can participate and can get loot from it that is potentially a loot upgrade that scales down to their level”
  • Garrisons Saved Legion
    • “If you were looking at this from very high top-down, and this was Warcraft 4, what would the demon RTS mission look like? And we took a look at the tech we had at the time for that, and it turned out that the garrison buildings were kind of our saviour on that one. One of the pieces of technology that allowed garrison buildings to work was our ability to swap entire huge structures into the world whenever we felt like it—we didn’t have that ability before and we had to do crazy terrain phasing and things like that that you’ve seen in the past and took a lot of production time.”
  • Source: http://www.pcgamer.com/how-wows-craziest-world-event-borrows-from-blizzards-rts-past

Darkmoon Faire

• Get the Inscription Dark Moon Cards for Legion stuffs now
• Get Test Your Strength before doing the pre-expansion quest

Cheating in WoD Heroics

• Salty Salty Prot Pally
• Jumping and clicking on mounts
• Hunter DPS was 3x Ret Pally DPS
  • DO YOU EVEN DPS BRUH

Farming Kael’thas

• Ashes of Al’ar
• White Swift Hawkstrider
• Using AddOn Rarity – https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/rarity

Emails

• Dafyed (daf-yed aka David)

“I’m fairly certain that you can’t get out of the goblin starting area without leveling. Your only option may be to race change any other race to a goblin. But I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a minimum level for that service. And I’m certainly not spending real $ to find out. Thanks for providing content to my ears.”

@bitterandsalty so stoked to see that the Horde and Alliance might actually be at war again. Long live the Queen!

— Zahbs (@Joey_theshine) August 10, 2016

Already tweeted my #Warcraft #Legion #BrokenIsles reaction, which was my enormous repair bill.
But enjoying new DH. https://t.co/aImJeMuJ80

— Moodyloner DK (@MoodyDK) August 10, 2016

@bitterandsalty people did world content together — so my little Pax said "that was cool"…Big Pax is still waiting to check it out

— paxdruid (@paxthedruid) August 10, 2016

Do We Have an Official Challenge in Legion pre-expansion pre-patch?

• No… We need help

Molsan Suggests

• Nobody listened to me so canceling this segment
• Or… Play an Arms Warrior because Assassination Rogue is terrible
• Or… Play an Affliction Warlock because you never lose health

Salty BlizzCon Tip

• Don’t be THAT GUY

Music

Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Slainte” by Tartalo Music (on YouTube and Facebook)

Additional clips of music taken from “Overwatch Soundtrack” by Blizzard Entertainment

Contact Info

Email: podcast@bitterandsalty.com
Phone: 413 BIT SALT or 413 248 7258
Molsan Method: http://molsanmethod.net

Twitter

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http://twitter.com/molsan
http://twitter.com/saltyslainte

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In the seventy-fourth World of Warcraft podcast episode, tanking is complete fail when you don’t wear deodorant and forget to taunt Galarakas at exactly the right time, Molsan enables the unit frame debuffs so he can see the tiny boxes with the tiny numbers inside, Sláinte discovers that Alliance LFR is exactly like Horde LFR only prettier, pop-up windows about bad hard drives make us want to build new gaming rigs, and we wish we could raid cross-faction so that Gnomes and Druids can finally play nicely together.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

LFR SoOoO Bad

Siege of Orgrimmar 2: The Deodorant

Twenty Secrets, Forty Bars

Shadowed Unit Frames

I found the show debuff button

New Computer Time!

Hard drive failure

Time to build and get rid of the lag once and for all

All I did was Gnome

LFRz

Normalz

Podcast Host UI of the Week

Sláinte’s UI

Music

Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Everything Is Awesome!!! (Instrumental Sing-A-Long)” by Mark Mothersbaugh

Contact Info

Email: podcast@bitterandsalty.com
Phone: 413 BIT SALT or 413 248 7258
Molsan Method: http://molsanmethod.com

Twitter

http://twitter.com/bitterandsalty
http://twitter.com/molsan
http://twitter.com/saltyslainte

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In the fifty-first World of Warcraft podcast episode, we announce the world first 25-man raid takedown of Garrosh while wondering if non-raiders are feeling left out in patch 5.4, Molsan rapidly levels his Elemental Shaman using only a macro and a mouse wheel, Sláinte explains his own methods for finding people to Flex raid with, we question whether or not we could actually switch classes and specs permanently, and we wrap up our thirty weeks of WoW with stories about our main characters and what they mean to us.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Patch 5.4… THE RAIDING PATCH

Is that all there is now… raiding?

Is Blizzard purposely ignoring the rest of the game in order to wrap up this expansion?

Did they mismanage features and put too much into the game too soon?

Look at the Patch Game Tape

Patch 5.4 is just… raiding….?

http://www.wowwiki.com/Patches

Shaman Leveling with a Mouse Wheel

Like a whole new world of character leveling just opened up.

Love wowlazymacros. Thanks, @BitterandSalty. People in forums arguing how to optimize being non optimal. Fucking brilliant. #justplaythegame

— Chris (@StupidGameTweet) September 28, 2013

Plastic Duck Solves the Raid Scheduling Problems

Use the in-game Guild Calendar!!!1

Corections and Mistakes Department

Yes, oQuest was WRONG and FAIL

Email from Crusader Kaje

I feel like I’m channeling the Mystery Man here…

After listening to your latest podcast, I decided to go looking for the oQuest addon you mentioned.  After many dead-ends, I finally found oQueue (not oQuest) on curseforge.com.  This addon seems to be what you were describing.  Just thought you might want to update that on your webpage.

Thanks for a great podcast, it’s one of my favorites.

What if We Switched Mains?

What would you do? How would you play?

Would you switch factions, races, genders?

What spec would you be?

Does your playing your “main” ever make you feel locked in to a particular playstyle?

TWoWoW Week 30: Your main and what he/she means to you.

Molsan

Slainte

Audio

Juuno

Strumpet

Rho

Ben

Email

Jerome

I came back to WoW for Jean.

That’s not entirely true, but it serves a a pretty nice logline, don’t you think? I had started playing WoW mostly to get an in with Jean while we were dating; once I had managed to convince her I was a worthwhile housemate, I mostly stopped playing. It was the end of Cataclysm, and I had ground to a halt in Deepholm, bored out of my mind and gazing longingly at other games. So I let my sub lapse, and moved on.

But then MoP came out, and Jean (and many of our friends) returned to WoW and started talking about how much fun they were having. And so I bought a copy of MoP, and rolled up a Pandaren Monk to see what all the fuss was about. And my friends were right; WoW was *fun* again. And Jean and I were now playing together again. Ghraycee was brilliant to play, simple and clever, and I started to think that maybe I could, one day, be a part of that community of people built around WoW.

I started running dungeons, going after achievements. I started focusing on Rep and doing dailies. I even signed up with a VERY casual raiding group, and started learning to Tank (well, off-tank, but still). I started rolling alts and playing on my own, not just grouped up with Jean. Reaching out to new people, making new friends, becoming a part of the community, counting myself lucky. And Ghraycee was my vehicle for that, my vector of infection.

Ghraycee made me want to play WoW for *me*, not just to play along with others. She made me understand how other people feel when they play WoW, how possessive and effulgent and invested they are when they talk about this game, and what it means to them. Ghraycee helped me understand Jean better, and for that I will be forever grateful.

My main is Ghraycee on Proudmoore, a member of Wowcoholics Anonymous. And she means at least one world to me.

Mominatrix

My main toon and what she means to me, Hmm…Well, my original main was an undead mage named Onehotmama, I picked undead because Belf’s felt too close to Nelf’s to be “hardcore” horde and I wanted something with a human-like form. Once Cata dropped, I rolled a goblin DK, Mominatrix. She became my new main because I related to her. She’s a short, sassy little firecracker with cute little purple pigtails. Just like me! (minus the purple pigtails…Although if I could make my hair do that I totally would.) All the /jokes and /flirts she comes up with are exactly the things I would say if I was allowed to! After almost 3 years of playing her she is totally the digital version of me. Big grats to you guys on 50 episodes, it’s a huge milestone and something you should be proud of. Heres to many many more! /toast

Time is money friend.

Mentions

@bitterandsalty @RealmPodcast my main has been since burning crusade.demoting her would be against the nature. Warlock Silvermoon eu

— phab (@phabme) September 26, 2013

@bitterandsalty my main Svander means colossal time sink, broken relationships, lost career opportunity, and general Peter Pan syndrome.

— Pancake (@fiercepancake) September 27, 2013

@bitterandsalty My main, typifies my playing wow for 4 years. Most times fun but ocassionaly taking a break to try on something different.

— Jules Burt (@julesburt) September 30, 2013

@bitterandsalty Although I have forever lost access to my original account, Monmonmo is a Warlock on Exodar just as my first ever toon was.

— Cole (@ColeP_TE) September 30, 2013

@bitterandsalty Continued- I made my new Warlock when I came back to WoW 2 years later, and for sentimental reasons, will never transfer him

— Cole (@ColeP_TE) September 30, 2013

Mentions

@bitterandsalty I have an ideafor u2 , I propos a foot race betwn the 2 of u wth lvl 1 unded toons frm the strtng zon to bootybay no rouges

— Allen McCormick (@BlinkPhase) September 27, 2013

I still can't tell @bitterandsalty apart, but I agree with the guy that lamented Open Raid's lack of early morning groups.

— Chris OCallahan (@StupidGoldTweet) September 27, 2013

@bitterandsalty Mystery Man forgets to take into account the joy I get from using a piece I’ve crafted myself.

— Strumpet One oh One (@strumpet101) September 27, 2013

@strumpet101 @bitterandsalty Agreed; I often feel Mystery Man and I are playing two different games. #actuallyagoodthing #WoWforeveryone

— Jerome Comeau (@Heronymus) September 27, 2013

@bitterandsalty I'm a Skada convert after this ep. No lag on Ordos fight using weak work pc! I wish Recount dropped loot after I killed it.

— Pancake (@fiercepancake) September 27, 2013

@bitterandsalty To do some easter egg hunts, you can get handynotes to hide chests until you give up, then have it show you what you missed.

— Ashayo (@Ashayo) September 27, 2013

@bitterandsalty – DING! Kachew, a Tauren Death Knight in the Bitter and Salty guild is now my 11th 90.

— Matthew Burlingame (@mattburlingame) September 30, 2013

@bitterandsalty My opponent this week has not replaced his TE, who is on a bye week. I'd like to win, of course, but not like that. #FFL 

— Jean (@jeanbees) September 29, 2013

Sláinte’s Blizzcon Tip

Be nice to “celebrities.”

Music

Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Daft Punk Get Lucky (Mexican Monkey Mix)” by Magic Finger

Contact Info
Email: podcast@bitterandsalty.com
Phone: 413 BIT SALT or 413 248 7258
Molsan Method: http://molsanmethod.com

Twitter
http://twitter.com/bitterandsalty
http://twitter.com/molsan
http://twitter.com/saltyslainte

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In the forty-second World of Warcraft podcast episode, we double ding Double Agents and recap the greatest and worst challenge of all, our race to level 90, we examine the stress that the game can sometimes put on our in and out of game relationships, we reveal our slash played and gold made during the challenge, we explain what a monkey run is, we offer up another Blizzcon tip, and we try really, really hard to pick a favorite battleground for our Thirty Weeks of World of Warcraft.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Worst challenge ever…

It affected us negatively.

Trying to find the positive.

Remember, it’s just a game.

The Negative Side of Relationships in WoW

What negative experiences can carry over into IRL?

Burnout on the game or the stress of maintaining real player relationships in an MMO?

@Molsan @bitterandsalty @SaltySlainte so proud of you both. Now junk that crap and get back to ER Horde already!!

— Jeppy (@eljeppy) July 23, 2013

@Molsan @bitterandsalty @SaltySlainte Finally, our long national nightmare is over! Big "grats" to you both for sticking with it!

— Rhett_CTR (@leenovak16) July 23, 2013

Call from Strumpet

Blacksmithing and Whack-a-moe with Fishing pole

Leveling Tips once 85

In MoP you can pick herbs/mine your own ore from 1-600.

Pre-Announcement Mini Board Bets

Who has more gold on their person?

Who has more/less /played?

Call from Satyr

Kicked Out of His Alliance Guild

MONKEY RUNS!

Stormstout Brewery up to first boss

Snooter28: “I was rested when we started and was averaging 450-500k experience roughly every 3 minutes. With completing 20 runs an hour that is 10 million experience in an hour and 1 level up in a little under 2 hours.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NFX-nXL7q0

Mini-Monkey Runs!!

Blood DK is for Grind!

Slingtail Treeleapers and Slingtail Mudseers in Jade Forest for The Path of War

Mystery Caller

We were doing leveling challenge wrong and unscientific like

Molsan is wrong about comparing things to Brawler’s Guild

Things Don’t Feel Legendary – Benediction

Board Best Results

Slash Played

Gold in Bags

Secret from Episode 40

For the Alliance!!

TWoWoW Week 21 – Favorite Battleground

Molsan

Vanilla Alterac Valley

Sláinte

They all suck

Mentions

@bitterandsalty #TWoWoW Week 21 — Favourite Battleground: Tol Barad. #howwillyoudisqualifythisone

— Jerome Comeau (@Heronymus) July 18, 2013

@bitterandsalty Battle for Gilneas. I like the "keep the bases" & smallish BG's. This one's perfect ♥

— Anna (@NotAnna) July 23, 2013

@bitterandsalty Alterac Valley. Love riding with the cavalry charge at the start. And yes, I'm exalted with the Stormpike Guard.

— Lilu for Lisa (@Lilulicious) July 23, 2013

@bitterandsalty Alterac Valley, a great classic! (There are three tied for second place, too.)

— Cole (@ColeP_TE) July 23, 2013

@bitterandsalty I loved the old 6 hour long AV battles. "Don't fight on the road, noobs!" "OMG, help summon the Ice Lord!" Ah, good times!

— Rhett_CTR (@leenovak16) July 23, 2013

@bitterandsalty Gotta go with AV and AB. Spent a ton of time there in vanilla, and have some of my favorite WoW memories of saving the day.

— Grimm (@GrimmAIE) July 24, 2013

@bitterandsalty Eye of the Storm. Druid hurricane macro back in the WOTLK days was epic for knocking unsuspecting people down the pit. heehe

— lagerhoof (@lagerhoof) July 23, 2013

Audio

Juuno

Strumpet

Stelsewhere

TWoWoW Week 22 – Your favorite Non-Combat or Hunter Pet

Mentions

Really enjoying @bitterandsalty  podcast. One of the best I have found so far!

— WOW Pod Critic (@CriticWOW) July 16, 2013

@bitterandsalty inspired @Heronymus and me to take the Double Agent challenge. Hard to roll Alli, though… they all look so weird! #WOW

— Jean (@jeanbees) July 18, 2013

Hey @bitterandsalty: my Worgen Death Knight hit 60! I'm going to go shower the Alliance filth off me.

— Scott McQ (@Satyr69) July 20, 2013

@bitterandsalty new listener for a few weeks now. Love the show can't wait every week for a new one!!#Jeremarley# lock# bleedinghallow us#

— jeremiah (@Jeremarley3) July 22, 2013

My paladin in the @bitterandsalty guild hit lvl 90. Went from 82 to 90 via PB mainly. 2nd character to max lvl. pic.twitter.com/RYWNtapReq

— Benjamin Redington (@benredington) July 23, 2013

Email

Weian

Molsan & Slainte,

Bitter & Salty is, hands down, the most enjoyable WoW podcast out there, especially for those who play it “our way.”

I’ve been playing since launch, most of the time in a friends & family guild, which has now dwindled to just two of us.  I miss the social aspect of a friendly, casual guild and your show has made me feel like I’m in <Bitter and Salty> even though I’m far away on Kirin Tor.  So like a few recent audience members, I’ve decided to start a character on Earthen Ring.  Looks like you need a pandaren warrior for the Stay Classy achievement, and that is a class I need to learn.  So I’ll leave my druids at home and Weian (Way-anne) would be thrilled for the opportunity.

Also, I hate it when Mom & Dad fight about levelling challenges, so please hug a little bit in your next pre-show.

Strumpet Makes a Best Friend

Blizzcon Tip #2

Drink water Always Be Drinking

Bring water bottles… small ones

Music

Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Daft Punk Get Lucky (Mexican Monkey Mix)” by Magic Finger

Contact Info
Email: podcast@bitterandsalty.com
Phone: 413 BIT SALT or 413 248 7258
Molsan Method: http://molsanmethod.com

Twitter
http://twitter.com/bitterandsalty
http://twitter.com/molsan
http://twitter.com/saltyslainte

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