In the one hundred and thirteenth World of Warcraft podcast episode, we go back in time and run timewalking dungeons and fish up all the achievements in Draenor, Molsan is permanently banished to Helheim on his Holy Priest, while Sláinte is forced to run heroic Emerald Nightmare instead of Trial of Valor, we open our Bloated Threshers to loot Darkmoon Daggermaw and sell them for crazy amounts of gold, we venture out to Suramar with a full quest log, but without a disguise, we stumble on the World Quest Group Finder addon and can’t believe we’ve been playing without it, we run battlegrounds to boost artifact power, and run old raids to collect missing appearances, and we discuss the rules for our new gold-making challenge.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you by Molsan and Sláinte.

Holy Ding 110

  • Dinged in Helheim so was banished/stuck
  • The 810 dilemma… Raise professions to craft your own gear, but need dungeons… or buy 810+ so you can run heroics for profession quests
  • External resources say that crafters are “giving away” 810+ gear (like Imbued Silkweave)… Min buyout is 2500g so not really

Heroic Emerald Nightmare vs. Trial of Valor

  • Salty gets salty

Timewarping Weekly Five

  • Died in every dungeon
  • Party was nice enough to give me agility gear to get me over 810
  • AIE Monk’s name was offensive
  • I fell and didn’t click on wind

Dark Moon FairE Fishing

  • Dat Dough Nut
  • Bloated Threshers OMG… Contain 5-10 Darkmoon Daggermaw when opened

World Questing in Failamar

  • You don’t have the portal?
  • You don’t have the disguise?
  • Shouldn’t you always try and help the weakest link get better, or do you toss them aside?
  • Returned for the masquerade deal… just winking a lot
  • Non-stop either “Something’s Not Quite Right…” or “Your Quest Log is Full”

AddOns: World Quest Group Finder

Legendary Cloak

  • Off Nithogg… when you least expect it to happen… it happens
  • Bonus rolled an 860 helm too… why not

PvP Battlegrounds

  • Oh yes… It means the end of WoW for Molsan
  • Trinkets upgraded from 799 and 825 to 840 and 845

AddOns: mOnArs WardrobeHelper

AddOns: Adibags

No Effing Gold-Making Challenge

  • Weekly event on show
  • Rules to be revealed LIVE during recording


Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Slainte” by Tartalo Music (on YouTube and Facebook)

Additional clips of music taken from “Tainted Love (Instrumental)” by Soft Cell

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In the eighty-seventh World of Warcraft podcast episode, we download Warlords 6.0 and let it squish our gear and hard drives, we ask for additional character slots so we can undelete our deleted characters, Sláinte faces off against Malkorok repeatedly, while Molsan gets owned by the pre-expansion doldrums, we ponder recruiting ourselves as we lust hard over the Cindermane Charger Lava Horse, we cancel all things Titan: raids, movies, and new MMOs, but decide to perma-lock all Hunters, we provide game-breaking ideas for improving PvP, And we remind everyone attending Blizzcon to bring a friend for protection.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

That Six Point Oh Pre-Patch Download

Warlords is almost here!

Stat squishy is almost here!

Brewfest… and nobody cares

Soloing Old Content

OH MY, from Washer: “To offset the effect of this change on players’ ability to solo or otherwise do old content, we’ve made a change to the combat system that gives players scaling bonus damage and reduced damage taken when fighting enemies that are lower-level and from a prior expansion. With the sheer amount of content involved, and the number of special-case mechanics found in boss fights over the years, it’s quite possible that there are some exceptions or quirks for which we’ve failed to account.”


Malkorok wiping

Character Undelete


New RAF Fire Horse

Cindermane Charger Lava Horse!!

Have you ever done a RAF?

Any desire to RAF just for a mount and is it worth the money?

Titan Canceled

Wasn’t WoW 2.0, but a different game

Will we ever have WoW 2.0 or is this it?

How to Fix PvP

1v1 Arena

Random class-spec for Battlegrounds

The Pre-Expansion Doldrums

Tehy are hit hard

Auction housing

Lost desire to defeat Garrosh before 6.0

FWoWoWFL Waiver Claim Process

What are the rules?

Too soon to put in a claim?

Salty Blizzcon Tip

Go with other people to protect you


Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Robin Thicke – Blurred Lines ft. T.I. Pharrell ( INSTRUMENTAL )” by ADreamOfficial

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In the seventy-ninth World of Warcraft podcast episode, the Black Prince himself gazes on us with his new buff for a 100% reputation bonus, we take advantage of the increased sigil and runestone drop rate and grind away on our alts for more legendary cloaks, Sláinte runs battlegrounds with Alliance and faces off against… more Alliance? Molsan Mind Blasts first and fixes his Shadow Priest glyphs and spell priority, gearing, gemming, and reforging for flex raiding proves to be confusing for Paladins, the Alpha crashes and throws up pixels all over our screens, and we kick off Sláinte’s Blizzcon tips with an in-depth Q&A about how to maximize your enjoyment of the event.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Bonus to Black Price Rep / Quest Item Drops

Will you work on any alts, Molsan??

Gnome Legendary PvP

Salty Story Time

Doing Shadow Priest Wrong

Wrong rotation/priorites

Wrong glyphs… Glyph of Focused Mending (Causes Prayer of Mending to only bounce between target and caster), Glyph of Dispersion (cooldown reduction), and Glyph of Mind Blast (target is unable to move for 4 secs)… WHY DID I HAVE THESE?!?

Changed to Glyph of Inner Sanctum (dmg reduction and movement speed increase), Glyph of Mind Flay (more increased movement speed), and

DPS hovering around 62K on Raider’s TD

Entitlement Raid Team

The roster, loot rules, and manifesto are ready for a Flex

Gearing the Protection Paladin

The robot thing and Icy Veins and the guides all conflict… I hope this is fixed in WoD

The Alpha

First impressions of Draenor crashing

Screenshot Scrapbook

QuestWalk – Creating a scrapbook of screenshots

Official Salty Sláinte Q&A for Blizzcon

A brief and in-depth survey of Sláinte’s view of Blizzcon


Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Threw it on the Ground (Instrumental)” by The Lonely Island

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In the forty-seventh World of Warcraft podcast episode, we’ve got super big plans and lofty goals before patch 5.4 drops, Molsan steals Lei Shen’s thunder — and his hat — and completes ToT; Sláinte tanks LFR and almost gets kicked from a group for the first time; we wonder why PvP is part of the legendary quest line; we tally up our slash played for our Thirty Weeks of WoW; we hit you with some quick TSM operations tips; we remind you to charge your battery before you attend Blizzcon; and we ask the party for help when running a heroic scenario for the first time.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

5.4 coming September 10th

Any goals before 5.4? Make some gold? Grind some JPs? Finish ToT? OH WAIT.

Stole Lei Shen’s Thunder

All raid content complete and his helm is mine!


What the What?

Call from Ahrag

PvP’ing for Legendary Quest… WHY?!?

TWoWoW Week 26 Your /played

Sláinte (92d 18h)

180d 12h 30m total

Molsan (91 days-ish)

Top 5 chars /played

Top 3 servers /played

Total /played








/played is 108 days, 6 hours across all toons.

This is probably less than most of you old-timers, but it’s a pretty scarry account of all the sleep that I’ve lost since my beginning in 4.1.


Numbers are scary, but they don’t really tell the full story. I’m sure you guys are like me, and have days, weeks or months of AFK time at the Auction House!

Or similar amounts of time watching for the TLP out of the corner of your eye. Well, not Slainte – lucky bastard guy!

Anywho, for what it’s worth, here are my crazy silly stats for both accounts. It excludes realms that I just have a couple of lowbies that I didn’t spend much time on. And of course,

alot of the time, I’m logged into both accounts at the same time.

Quick catchup – Fav Cata dungeon is Throne of the Tides (many of the others had mechanics that were very pug unfriendly). Least fav profession – First Aid ; though I’d prefer they buff or enhance it rather than take it away.

TWoWoW Week 27  – A time you made friends with someone in a group?

TSM 2.X Talk with @Molsan

Living Steel and Titanium Bar operations

Email from Abbish: TSM allows multiple operations on an item. For example, you can mail one alt a set number of Trillium Bars and then the excess go to another character.

Whitelist your friends! Under Operations -> Auctioning -> Whitelist

Bitter and Salty FFL

Are we allowed to talk about this?

How did the draft go?

Call from Juuno

Utgarde Keep Dungeon Tale

Challenge Dungeon and Heroic Scenario

Challenge Dungeon… Can I tank it, or do I NEED to DPS?



Call from Mystery Man

Tier 3 correction and more mouseover tips

Email from Jerome

Mrs. Salty reading the intro

Perfect. Absolutely perfect. Keep it up!

Sláinte’s Blizzcon Tip #7

Battery Charging!


Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Daft Punk Get Lucky (Mexican Monkey Mix)” by Magic Finger

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In the twenty-ninth World of Warcraft podcast episode, we are ready to purchase tickets to Blizzcon, we wonder what to do now that we’re exalted with the Klaxxi, we use LFR to relieve anger toward raiding progression, we preview our AQ20 gold-making challenge results, we reveal tips for Tillers and Monks, we cover week 8’s PvP/PvE/RP debate for our thirty weeks of World of Warcraft, and we hear the epic tale of the pink dress.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Blizzcon Tickets on Sale

$175 Tickets to attend BlizzCon 2013 will go on sale in two batches on Wednesday, April 24, 2013 at 7 p.m. Pacific Time and Saturday, April 27 at 10 a.m. Pacific Time. Visit the official BlizzCon website or the online Blizzard Store on either of these dates for a chance to purchase tickets.

Tips for buying tickets

Sign in to the Blizzard Store and make sure everything is up-to-date for your account. Then sign in a few minutes before the tickets go on sale.

Big Blizzcon ticket buying tip: Setup your payment card BEFORE, like NOW!!! Add it to your account.

Blizzard Dev Live Q&A Thursday, April 25th

We’ll be hosting a live World of Warcraft developer Q&A open to the community on Thursday, April 25 from 5:30-6:30 p.m. PDT. Designers Dave Kosak, Ion Hazzikostas, Brian Holinka, Cory Stockton, and Greg Street will be available to field your questions about Mists of Pandaria gameplay and design, patch 5.2 and beyond. This will be a moderated chat on the Cover it Live platform hosted on the front page of our official site. Community managers will be there to filter your submissions for the developers.

Klaxxi Exalted

Now What?

What’s the deal with Tillers work orders?

LFR – Controlling Your Own Progression

With LFR, you can progress as fast/slow as you want and use whatever criteria (gear, iLevel, etc.) you want. A nice side-effect.

AQ20 Challenge Update




This was the result of a full clear by moomoocachoo (feral druid). Got about 750g after all items were sold/auctioned. Ran 6 other toons through. The others got about 350 – 500g depending on what pieces dropped for auction. The plate breastplates sold pretty well.

The Tale of the Pink Dress

Audio from Strumpet

Monk Zen Pilgrimage Tip

Audio from Rubmahbelleh

Noob Tillers Tip

Anvil and forge up the hill between sunsong ranch and flight point.

TWoWoW Week 8 – PvP/PvE/RP





I know I’m late for this weeks show but I’m sending my favorite piece of lore anyway so… 😛  My favorite piece of lore isn’t 1 piece per se, it’s all of the books that you find throughout the game. I love when you find one that’s written by some major NPC and you get a glimpse of their life at that time. It’s pretty cool. Honorary mention goes to the coins you fish up in the fountain in Dal. They’re pretty awesome too.

My week 8 of 30 weeks of WoW answer is PvE, but I’d love to learn how to RP. I hate hate hate PvP, even as a DK I get my butt handed to me no matter what BG I’m in. It gets frustrating waiting to rez when you know you’ll be back in a minute or two. >.< grrr!

Stay classy guys! Hugs!

Rubmahbelleh (Rub Mah Belly), Bitter and Salty Guild, Earthen Ring

You guys continue to make excellent podcasting look easy. Thanks and keep it up!

My favorite playstyle continues to be PvE with some RP thrown in when it fits and happens organically. One of my lowbie pandas was finishing some quests near Ratchet and ran into the inn for a quest turn in. The quest had something to do with Garrosh and I happened to be in a mood about him and made some cutting comments about the illustrious Warchief in spatial chat. Almost immediately, I received a whisper warning me he had ears everywhere and that I should be careful talking like that. Turns out there was a group sitting at the tables in the inn and they invited me over so we could trash Garrosh and look forward to his hopefully imminent demise. I sat there with them for about a half hour, drinking with them, answering questions about Pandaria and “translating their fortune cookies.” That began when I passed along one of Koltrane’s fortune cookies from the Convert To Raid podcast and eventually I had a bunch of websites open that were filled with fortunes and was cobbling together fortunes for them on the fly. Some were hits, some flamed out but it was a ton of fun doing this stuff off-the-cuff. We eventually went our own ways and I later discovered they were regular RPers just meeting out there to do a nightly meetup and included me, thinking I was another regular RPing friend of theirs that liked to show up as different characters.

From the sounds of what I just told you, it seems RP should be my preferred style but I’ve found the fun of it really disappears quickly if I try to make it happen.


When I started playing WoW like most people I started due to some friends recruiting me into the game. So that I wasn’t alone I joined the server that they were on, US Thunderlord, a PvP server. Being new to the game I didn’t know the difference as far as an experience so I went with it. Lucky they were all at level cap (Wrath) so if I needed help they would help me out. This created some challenges when leveling but some epic memories. Running to Scarlet Monastery from Southshore as an alliance toon to get my gear around level 30. The whole shouthshore experience and the PvP element that it had naturally. Just being ganked and ganked and going into general / trade asking for help.

Once hearing about the CTR guild on Aerie Peak I moved a character over there to a PvE server. It works out much better for leveling as I was never good at PvP and I still have the option to PvP. I still feel it’s missing a little something. Maybe that’s due to other elements like CRZ, Not really having to fight over a summoning stone outside on an dungeon or a bit of the quality of life additions have taken away from the experience since I first leveled. As much as I hated the waste of time of being killed and killed during questing I still feel PvP adds a huge element of Alliance vs Horde. The problem is, most servers are heavily Alliance or Horde, not really to many 50/50 servers.

Now I’ve been leveling with the Bitter and Salty guild, Earthen Ring RP server. So far I really haven’t had much interaction with others outside of the guild. I haven’t been in a capital city for a long period of time to be around trade / general chat. When leveling and seeing others in the same zone as me, I have gone out of my way to /wave to them. Overall the guild chat has been the biggest effect on my leveling. Just having that social aspect that you don’t get in a guild with 4000 players.

So my answer would be, no matter PvP, PvE or RP as long as you are around others who you interact with, stay there. I personally do like the PvP element but I’m very happy on Earthen Ring.

Mildrid/Batibat – Earthern Ring (US)

I’ve spent most of my WoW career on a PvP server, and have gotten somewhat accustomed to the paranoia, but at the same time I’ve been long frustrated with Blizzard’s attitude that it’s perfectly accepted for max level players to maurade around and one shot defeneseless leveling toons with no repercussion.  Personally I dont think a player more than 5 levels below you should be attackable at all unless they engage in specific behavior to flag them such as invading capitol territory, capturing a resource, etc.   It’s a terrible system that encourages miscreant behavior. Rarely does low level ganking culminate in full blown open warfare in the fields that proponents seem to offer as a defense for allowing this.  The population does not police itself like it may have in previous expansions and in the pre Cross Realm environment.   I’ve kind of had enough of it, and at the same time I started covertly playing WoW more at work(!) where I can’t devote my full attention to whether I’m safe at the end of a flight path, so I recently followed the podcasts to Earthen Ring PvE/RP for the lower stress experience.

On another topic, I found another source of Herald calibre gear that isn’t as obvious as the justice point vendors.  While at first it may seem that all the PVP vendors in Dalaran peddle gear too high a level to be suitable, if you take a flight over to the WINTERGRASP vendors you will find an assortment of interesting trinkets, rings, and some other gear in the 213-226 range that can be purchased for a couple hundred honor points.  I got a +95 int lvl 213 trinket and a lvl 226 int/haste ring.  They aren’t perfect itemization, but they are better than most available gear if you are having trouble getting drops from ICC normals or getting run through raids.

@strumpet101 PvE all the way. I do not enjoy getting banked. And I suck at PvP. (no audio for TWoW since I sent a different one)

Week 09 — Horde or Alliance?


@GrimmAIE Pro tip: you can already transmog from your void storage with…. Function built into WoW, just no UI

@GrimmAIE This week’s achievement: Dinged 80 on my DK

@lucasmines Thanks to @bitterandsalty for fueling my return to WoW after a 2 year break.  Episode 11 makes me want to try my own gold challenge

@_Winkee Sunwell 1 shot solo except I couldn’t take Brut with pally or warrior but hunter 1 shot. Outland raider achieved!




  • Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba.

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