In the fifty-second World of Warcraft podcast episode, we walk the tightrope on the Timeless Isle for coin-filled chests and disappointment, Molsan’s Shaman dings 90 and gears up for Throne of Thunder in about an hour, we speculate over future patches and what Blizzard can do to change how content is delivered in the next expansion, we buy all the things from the auction house using a macro, Sláinte wants to keep the gold in the guild bank all for himself instead of using it for repairs… and still dislikes Murloc costumes, we wonder what we’ve learned from our Thirty Weeks of World of Warcraft and plan ahead for future weekly challenges, and we switch markets to make more gold so we can spend even more gold on items like the Ethereal Soul Trader.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Was the Timeless Isle a Mistake?

Is it boring?

Tightrope Walking is for winners only

Shaman is 90

Quintessential Quintet

From dinging 90 to ToT… in about an hour

… and my DPS is at the bottom of the meters

Added an AoE macro so I will be ready for next time

Call from Strumpet

Achievements, the DMF Wolf, Nameplates for Only Friends

Call from Mystery Man

More content patches are on the way!

Rare Blue MoP Market is No Moar

Time to get into a new market… How about some Enchanting err… Inscription

How to Macro Any Add On Button

For TSM 2.0:

/click TSMAHTabBuyoutButton

/click TSMAHConfirmationActionButton

I use this to buy herbs “in bulk” below my max price.

Guild Bank Management

What should we do with the gold?

Our current cash flow (aside from generous donations) only covers repairs for two individuals running LFR.

Guild Bank Cleaning

We should discuss plans to clean out the guild bank in preparation for 6.0.

Your Ethereal Soul Trader Shall be Mine!

This is why I make and save gold… what are some big ticket items you’d spend your gold on besides Mimron’s Head?

Call from Juuno

No TWoWoW so now what?

Sláinte is totally wrong about Murloc costumes

Email from Jean

Hey guys!

Is it really over already? I’ll miss the 30 Weeks segment, but can’t wait to hear whatever you guys come up with next.

I’m answering two weeks at the same time, because I missed Week 26 and /played time and mains seem interrelated to me.

My total /played time between all my existing toons on all servers came in around 344 days. My first main, however, isn’t even included in this number. I deleted her a while back. I know, I can scarcely believe it myself. Onoma, Tauren hunter, was my first Horde character and my first max level character. I leveled her to 60 in Vanilla, and I still remember how excited I was to take her through the Dark Portal for the first time. That’s gotta be like 50 or 60 lost days of playtime, right?

Anyway, for most of BC and the beginning of Wrath, my main was my rogue, Marrsha. She had a name change and a server change along the way, and she was my first raiding toon. I liked sneaking around and pickpocketing and stabbing things. My played time on Marrsha is 70 days.

At some point during early Wrath, I went back and picked up an old abandoned priest alt. Suddenly, I was in love! I was in love with standing back and casting and being able to see what was going on. I was in love with healing. I leveled her up and she quickly became my new raiding toon–my new raid team needed a healer, so I specced Sindei Disc/Holy and she became my new main. She has been my main ever since, and she too, has about 70 days of playtime.

When I quit playing WoW, I eventually came back because I missed Sindei. When I got a FigurePrint for my birthday, it was Sindei who got the honors. I prioritized Sindei’s Darkspear Revolutionary title because, in my mind, Sindei is proud to be a Darkspear and to support and aid Vol’jin.

I admit, these days I find myself playing my Forsaken warlock Shirlea quite a bit. I have just 8 days /played on Shirlea, but she is my current raiding toon and is better geared than Sindei at this point. I even recently considered whether I should move her to the top of my character selection screen… but no. Shirlea may be most played lately, but she is still not my main. Shirlea may be the main of the moment, but Sindei is my main: the character I always go back to, the one who brought me back to the game, the one I love the best.

Thanks for a great 30 weeks, guys!

#TWoWoW Recap

What did we learn?

What will we do in its place? Bring back Weekly Challenge? Spin the Achievement Roulette wheel?!?

Sláinte’s Blizzcon Tip

No tips, just good vibes

Don’t carry around your Goodie Bag


Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Ylvis – The Fox (Karaoke/Instrumental)” by danielh7052

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In the fifty-first World of Warcraft podcast episode, we announce the world first 25-man raid takedown of Garrosh while wondering if non-raiders are feeling left out in patch 5.4, Molsan rapidly levels his Elemental Shaman using only a macro and a mouse wheel, Sláinte explains his own methods for finding people to Flex raid with, we question whether or not we could actually switch classes and specs permanently, and we wrap up our thirty weeks of WoW with stories about our main characters and what they mean to us.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.


Is that all there is now… raiding?

Is Blizzard purposely ignoring the rest of the game in order to wrap up this expansion?

Did they mismanage features and put too much into the game too soon?

Look at the Patch Game Tape

Patch 5.4 is just… raiding….?

Shaman Leveling with a Mouse Wheel

Like a whole new world of character leveling just opened up.

Plastic Duck Solves the Raid Scheduling Problems

Use the in-game Guild Calendar!!!1

Corections and Mistakes Department

Yes, oQuest was WRONG and FAIL

Email from Crusader Kaje

I feel like I’m channeling the Mystery Man here…

After listening to your latest podcast, I decided to go looking for the oQuest addon you mentioned.  After many dead-ends, I finally found oQueue (not oQuest) on  This addon seems to be what you were describing.  Just thought you might want to update that on your webpage.

Thanks for a great podcast, it’s one of my favorites.

What if We Switched Mains?

What would you do? How would you play?

Would you switch factions, races, genders?

What spec would you be?

Does your playing your “main” ever make you feel locked in to a particular playstyle?

TWoWoW Week 30: Your main and what he/she means to you.










I came back to WoW for Jean.

That’s not entirely true, but it serves a a pretty nice logline, don’t you think? I had started playing WoW mostly to get an in with Jean while we were dating; once I had managed to convince her I was a worthwhile housemate, I mostly stopped playing. It was the end of Cataclysm, and I had ground to a halt in Deepholm, bored out of my mind and gazing longingly at other games. So I let my sub lapse, and moved on.

But then MoP came out, and Jean (and many of our friends) returned to WoW and started talking about how much fun they were having. And so I bought a copy of MoP, and rolled up a Pandaren Monk to see what all the fuss was about. And my friends were right; WoW was *fun* again. And Jean and I were now playing together again. Ghraycee was brilliant to play, simple and clever, and I started to think that maybe I could, one day, be a part of that community of people built around WoW.

I started running dungeons, going after achievements. I started focusing on Rep and doing dailies. I even signed up with a VERY casual raiding group, and started learning to Tank (well, off-tank, but still). I started rolling alts and playing on my own, not just grouped up with Jean. Reaching out to new people, making new friends, becoming a part of the community, counting myself lucky. And Ghraycee was my vehicle for that, my vector of infection.

Ghraycee made me want to play WoW for *me*, not just to play along with others. She made me understand how other people feel when they play WoW, how possessive and effulgent and invested they are when they talk about this game, and what it means to them. Ghraycee helped me understand Jean better, and for that I will be forever grateful.

My main is Ghraycee on Proudmoore, a member of Wowcoholics Anonymous. And she means at least one world to me.


My main toon and what she means to me, Hmm…Well, my original main was an undead mage named Onehotmama, I picked undead because Belf’s felt too close to Nelf’s to be “hardcore” horde and I wanted something with a human-like form. Once Cata dropped, I rolled a goblin DK, Mominatrix. She became my new main because I related to her. She’s a short, sassy little firecracker with cute little purple pigtails. Just like me! (minus the purple pigtails…Although if I could make my hair do that I totally would.) All the /jokes and /flirts she comes up with are exactly the things I would say if I was allowed to! After almost 3 years of playing her she is totally the digital version of me. Big grats to you guys on 50 episodes, it’s a huge milestone and something you should be proud of. Heres to many many more! /toast

Time is money friend.



Sláinte’s Blizzcon Tip

Be nice to “celebrities.”


Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Daft Punk Get Lucky (Mexican Monkey Mix)” by Magic Finger

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In the fiftieth World of Warcraft podcast episode, we continue the Siege on Orgrimmar and collect all the empire’s dirty little secrets, we cut deep into constructing expansions and suggest that the main storyline shouldn’t have to flow through raid content, Molsan begins leveling his Shaman and realizes that there are new and amazing addons to install, we get lazy and use rotation macros, in-game quest guides, and addons for automatically turning in quests, Sláinte wins the Recount vs. Skada debate once and for all, we announce our favorite Mists of Pandaria dungeon for our Thirty Weeks of WoW and gently reveal that dungeons are no more.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Raiding in 5.4




Stones and Legendary Empire Secrets

Shaman Leveling

It’s crazy, I know!


Macro Toolkit and the One Button Macro


Zygor vs. WoW-Pro vs. Carbonite


oQuest vs. Open Raid

Recount vs. Skada… Slainte wins!!

Call from Plastic Duck




Call from Mystery Man

Various show corrections and agreements with Molsan

TWoWoW Week 29 – Favorite MoP Dungeon

Sláinte – Monkey Runs! I don’t remember the rest…

Molsan – Template of the Jade Serpent





TWoWoW Week 30 – Your Main Character and what He/She Means to You


SMS from Zennolly

Hey guys. I’m just wondering if you’re planning on staying on Earthen Ring. I want to transfer to join the guild. Just wanted to check

Tanasttia Sonnets

Mount Giveaway Update

Sláinte’s Blizzcon Tip

Don’t expect EPICness, it will happened ORGANICALLY


Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Daft Punk Get Lucky (Mexican Monkey Mix)” by Magic Finger

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In the forty-ninth World of Warcraft podcast episode, we catch up with patch 5.4 and run around the Timeless Isle, we spend all of our coins on keys and chase giant sharks around on our raft, Sláinte flexes but not as holy while Molsan begins his Legendary LFR grind, we have a spoiler-free discussion about the Siege of Orgrimmar cut scenes, we prepare our blacksmiths for more ingot grinding, and we reveal our favorite dungeon, raid, or world boss for our Thirty Weeks of World of Warcraft.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Timeless Isle

Find all teh coins/treasures! FREE LOOT!

Email from Svander (Dark Iron) / Mildrid (Earthen Ring)

So there’s that big whale shark Evermaw that circles the new Timeless Isle frequently and drops over 1000 coins per kill.  Kind of a pain to pew pew something in the water that’s moving as fast as it does, right?  Well did you know that you can hop on your Angler’s fishing raft and chase him around as long as you board it before entering combat?  Makes the fight much easier and more hilarious to look at!

PS. Grats to Svander on obtaining his legendary cloak!

Cloaks and Reputations and Changes in 5.4

Eternally in the Vale – Completed and… removed from the game.

Time to buy gear with Justice Points… now what to do with Valor?

Legendary Questline

Why is this so confusing and weird? Stones dropping in LFR but not all LFR?

Sláinte is retired

Pally will no longer be actively played sans from JC duties.

Dangui takes over as “Main”

War Ch(i)ef Talk’mon


Molsan’s UI

Did you use any new HUDs?

Call from Mystery Man

Tell Me When

Started using TellMeWhen … thank you, Grimmclaw and Mystery Man!

Cluttering my UI a bit… Would almost prefer using only TMW and dropdown menus to keep everything else tucked away

In non-ElvUI-is-the-best-evar news… MayronUI Gen 2 was updated last week:


28 Days later… EPICS!!!

#TWoWoW Week 28 — Your favorite dungeon/raid/world boss

Molsan – BPC or Kara Opera or Kara Chess

Sláinte – VDW



Big Steve aka Soulfinger

Strumpet (revision for Week 28)



#TWoWoW Week 29 — Your favorite Mists of Pandaria dungeon

Call from Mominatrix

Terrific Trio!

Call from Jaminbee

Achievements – Reputation Dings

Call from Strumpet

Achievement Goals – Pandaren Ambassador

Armored Bloodwing Giveaway

From Rubmahbelleh/@wheeble_esq

Another Q&A number-answer reveal!

Blizzcon Tip

Do not party too hard Thursday night. You’ll want to feel your best on Friday!


Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Daft Punk Get Lucky (Mexican Monkey Mix)” by Magic Finger

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In the forty-eighth World of Warcraft podcast episode, we want the Khan achievement but don’t want to do any of that PvP; we tell each other that it’s okay to spend gold on gear, especially if it’s a DPS set for an Unholy Death Knight; we fix our LFR lag by tweaking some in-game graphics settings; and for our thirty weeks of WoW, we reminisce about a time… a special time when Warcraft kindled a spark… a spark that ignited a fiery, intense, and lifelong friendship… for Molsan and Sláinte.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Spend all teh Gold

Sláinte continues to spend gold to make a DPS set.

Starting 5.4 with little gold and going to rebuild fortune with Molsan Methods


From Wowinterface, by Leatrix:

“Leatrix Latency Fix will reduce your online gaming latency significantly by increasing the frequency of TCP acknowledgements sent to the game server. For the technically minded, this is a program which will modify TCPAckFrequency.

You will see reduced latency in many online games including World of Warcraft, Guild Wars 2, Diablo 3, Star Wars, Rift, Aion, Warhammer, Lord of the Rings, and more.”


TWoWoW This Week – Meet a Friend in the Game

Sláinte – Molsan

Molsan – Sláinte


Leeta with Ashayo






Hi guys!

Rubmahbelleh here to chime in on week 27 and catch up a little!

I don’t think I have ‘made friends’ with anyone that I’ve grouped with! While I don’t mind LFD at all and often end up continuing to re-queue with one person or another, I rarely contact them later despite both of us /friending the other. I’ve made some strong friendships with people in WoW but those friendships usually start with being in the same guild together. I’d say I need a little more time than an LFD allows before calling someone a friend and so far, LFD hasn’t led to that.

For week 26, I turned to Altoholic for a snapshot of my current /played status. It turns out, I’ve played a total of 164 days, 7 hours, 56 minutes. Not as bad as I thought it might be. But what about the money I’ve put into WoW?

I’ve been a WoW subscriber since launch, paying month-to-month for the first year and then paying every six months and getting a slightly cheaper rate. If I calculate those subscription costs along with what I’ve spent on the original game purchase, expansions, Blizzard store mounts and companions, and  server, faction and name changes, I’ve dropped (gulp) $2042 on this game.


But wait, let’s put this in perspective. Looking at these two totals together, I see WoW costs me about $0.52/hour to play. Ooohh…suddenly this looks like a sound financial decision!

Since this was money spent on ‘fun’ what alternatives might there be?

That amount of money would take me to about 185 movies, netting me approximately 309 hours of fun at a rate of $6.60/hour. Hmm, WoW wins over movies.

Two grand could take me to Disney World (flight, hotel, meals, park admission for one person). Over-estimating stamina and interest, let’s say I spend 12 hours a day for four days in parks, Disney turns out being a comparative rip-off at $43/hour.

How about music? Songs are cheap, they’ll beat WoW! Ok…so if I buy 2063 songs at 99¢ each and they average four minutes in length, that’s about 138 hours of entertainment at a rate of … $14.85/hour.

Ok…so that $2000 total took me by surprise a little but after looking at a few of my alternatives, I clearly have been making Warren Buffet-level decisions with my entertainment dollar and can totally justify buying more store mounts! That said, here’s a code for an Armored Bloodwing for the show. 🙂

And for the record, I’m really not a creepy loner at Disney World, I have a wife and two kids but none of them currently pay to play WoW so I was certainly NOT going to bring them along while I went to my 185 movies in the Magic Kingdom and listened to lots of music.

Awesome show, guys, thanks!


Hey guys, it’s Grimm writing in with weeks 26 and 27 of the 30 weeks of WoW.

My /played really reflects my lack of playtime on alts, as my main, Grimmclaw, has 141 days played. Using Altoholic to take the totals from my two main realms, my total across all toons is 175 days. I know last week there was some discussion about being embarrassed to say our /played, because of the implication of what else we could be doing with that time. But honestly, I feel no embarrassment whatsoever about that time spent playing WoW, because I can honestly say that had I not been playing WoW, I would have been playing something else, or watching tv, or doing some other non-productive thing, But what I got out of WoW that I never would have with solo games or tv are the relationships I have formed in WoW, which brings me to week 27.

A few years ago I moved away from my original server of Korialstrasz, where I played with a couple of family members and friends. Most had all quit the game, and I was ready for something new. I came over to Earthen Ring, and, having never raided, I started looking through the raiding threads on the AIE forums. There I found a thread for a new team forming called Night Moves, looking to raid at a casual pace in order to have fun. I threw up a post saying I was looking for my first raid experience, had only PvP epics and would understand if they weren’t interested. The leader of that team was a guy named Molsan, who said it was no problem, and they would love to have me. From there I went on to meet more great people, who to this day I call my friends. We joke on Twitter, text each other about inane things, and meet at Blizzcon to watch each other dive into bushes. I see no reason that these people won’t continue to be my good friends long after we all move on to other games. Thanks for taking a chance on a noob, Molsan, and allowing me to meet all these great people. Your furry, stinky druid friend, Grimmclaw


Hey guys, a thought came across my mind while listening to the latest episode;  What do you think the reason is that people are reluctant to tell others their /played time, but they’ll tell people that they’ve been playing since Vinilla (or BC or Wrath or Cata) with an amount of pride?


TWoWoW Next Week: Your favorite dungeon/raid/world boss?

Call from WoW Dot Ben

Sláinte’s Blizzcon Tip

Spend time with your friends


Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Daft Punk Get Lucky (Mexican Monkey Mix)” by Magic Finger

Contact Info
Phone: 413 BIT SALT or 413 248 7258
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