In the sixty-eighth World of Warcraft podcast episode, we remember our Herald of the Titans run where we slayed Algalon, took all the loot, and watched all the RP, we discuss the future of HotT and our plans for keeping the raid going for everyone in the guild, we reflect on the journey to completing our goal and the many contributions that our fellow raid and guild mates made to achieve our success, we deny all reports that the expansion is near and question why anyone would waste the level 90 character boost on a Druid, oh and there’s love in the air. again.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Remember the Heralds of the Titans

We did it!!

Raid lockouts… WTF?? Blizz hates Salty

Favorite Part of Journey? Fight?

LOOT Rants

The Future of HotT

Would you do it again on another character? Alliance?

Do we open this up to other guilds/realms?

HotT Prep Part 2

Alchemy – Leveling 4th Alchemist as Potion Master

Are Cauldrons soulbound?

JC – Doing those Dalaran dailies paid off… for Grimm

Crafting Wrath gems makes gold

Reforgelite AddOn

Yogg’d for Mimron’s Head… but no luck

Love is in the Air

Two weeks of Warcraft lovin!

Mythic Raiding in SoO and Patch 5.4.7

Does this mean the expansion is near?

Char boost to 90 is included! Great?


Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Epic Sax Guy [Original] HD” by SunStroke Project

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In the sixty-sixth World of Warcraft podcast episode, we fail miserably at Herald of the Titans and complain about all the things we did wrong, we commit ourselves to properly preparing for the next raid by leveling Cooking to make Seafood Manifiques, we ask all the pet battle and pet collecting questions you could ever want or stand to listen to including what it means to be a true collector, we level more alts to help other guilds Stay Classy, and we blow our minds by resetting all of the events of the Cataclysm.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Herald of the Titans

Did it happen?!?


Herald of the Titans Prep

Leveling professions

No head enchants

Min DPS? 5K?

Fortune Cookie to be made, NO, SALTY MAKING FEASTS!!!!!

Gemmed BEFORE raid

GEARED, as in have your gear on before raid

Potions, potions, potions… and flasks

Dying stars = AOE RAID DAMAGE


Leveling that Cooking at 80

You can’t do anything

There Will be Blood


Sláinte Interview

All the questions that weren’t asked on APA

Pet Collecting Etiquette

Buying Pets

The list

How I track what I have and don’t have


Panda Mage

Blood Elf Monk


NEXT WEEK: TWoWoD Week 8 – Nagrand and the Warsong Clan led by Grommash


Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Epic Sax Guy [Original] HD” by SunStroke Project

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In the sixty-fifth World of Warcraft podcast episode, we level exclusively as Pandaren for cross-guild Stay Classy action, we spread our diseases in Siege of Orgrimmar and Throne of Thunder on our Death Knight tanks, we declare ourselves ready for Herald of the Titans once and for all, we question the validity of auction house pricing data and consider manual item and price scanning, we discuss Blizzard’s plan for dungeons and bosses in the next expansion, and we break all the Shadowmoon Burial Ground news for our Thirty Weeks of Warlords of Draenor.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Pandaren Leveling

Mages! Hunters! Warriors!

Stay Classy Update

There Will Be Blood

Mildly successful tanking of third boss in ToT1, the Council of Elders

Icecrown Citadel 10 and the Gunship

Herald of the Titans NEXT WEEK

Are we ready?

Auction House Markets

What’s up with the pricing sources these days?

Why not just manually scan and use dbMarket?

What do players spend gold on these days?

TWoWoD Week 7 – Dungeon – Shadowmoon Burial Grounds

Sláinte to reveal all

21-27 dungeons with average number of bosses (145) in Vanilla: 6.9-5.37

16 dungeons with average number of bosses (54-57) in BC: 3.38-3.56

16 dunegons with average number of bosses (64-68) in WotLK: 4-4.25

14 dungeons with average number of bosses in Cata: 4.75

9 dungeons with average number of bosses in MoP: 3.67

TWoWoD Week 8 – Nagrand and the Warsong Clan led by Grommash


Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Epic Sax Guy [Original] HD” by SunStroke Project

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In the sixty-third World of Warcraft podcast episode, we ring in the new year by destroying everything with TSM_Destroying, Molsan runs Ulduar 25 on his Hunter and gears up for HotT raiding but has to give up his pants, we ask about in-game pet gifting etiquette, we give out our WoW year’s resolutions and announce changes to the show format, we learn about Gul’dan and the Stormreaver Clan for our Thirty Weeks of Warlords of Draenor, and we conduct and intense, revealing, one-on-one interview with the one and only Salty Sláinte.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.


Goodbye disenchanting/milling/prospecting macros!!

All you need is this add on and the macro to call /click TSMDestroyButton

Will auto-queue up items that can be destroyed based on your profession

Can shift-click to hide items during a session or permanently

Tales from Ulduar 25

Teabiscuit, the Mighty Cow and the Tier Pants

The Astral Walker

Gearing Hunter for HotT… Can’t wait!!

Holiday Greeting from Strumpet

Random Gift-Giving Etiquette

Giving out pets people already have… Is it okay to return them or do you HAVE to learn them again?

WoW Year’s Resolutions

Interviews and Guests!!

TWoWoD Week 5 – Shadowmoon Valley and the Stormreaver Clan led by Gul’dan

Interview with Gul’dan

  • With the assistance of the Shadow Council, worked with Medivh to open the Dark Portal between Azeroth and Draenor

  • Gul’dan along with Cho’gall manipulated the Horde as they waged war on Azeroth

  • Gul’dan manipulated the election of Blackhand as the first Warchief of the Horde

  • Upon learning of an attack on Medivh at Karazhan, Gul’dan entered a psychic link with Medivh’s mind and was put into a coma when Medivh was slain by Khadgar, Lothar, and Garona

Who are the Stormreaver Clan?

  • We don’t know if the Stormreaver Clan was founded during the First War or Second War

  • Small but powerful group whose purpose was to protect Gul’dan from Orgrim Doomhammer

  • During the Second War of the Eastern Kingdoms, they intended to find the lost tomb of Sargeras

  • Gul’dan and the Stormreavers abandoned the Siege of Lordaeron, raised the Tomb of Sargeras from the bottom of the Great Sea, and attempted to steal the demonic power from the tomb for their own. According to the promise of the tomb, It would have made Gul’dan a god

  • (it was in fact the promise of the Tomb of Sargeras that led Gul’dan to first open the Dark Portal).

  • Gul’dan himself was later torn apart by the Tomb’s Guardians, at the very threshold of the Eye Chamber (once the Courtyard of the Moon), and his armies destroyed by the enraged legions of Orgrim Doomhammer, who had been forced to break off their assault on Lordaeron in order to deal with Gul’dan’s treachery.

What’s up with Shadowmoon Valley?

  • Official description from Blizzard: “Hidden under a shroud of perpetual night broken only by bright starlight, the lush, idyllic forests of Shadowmoon Valley are home to a majestic draenei tomb and sanctuary: Karabor. While many of Shadowmoon’s denizens study prophecy among Karabor’s ancient stone circles, plotters with darker ambitions lurk in the valley’s vast underground cave network, gazing greedily at the sacred temple.”

  • This is what we played at Blizzcon, right?

  • Karabor is the Draenei tomb and sanctuary… that later becomes the Black Temple

  • Very blue… like Zangarmarsh, but looks like Azuremyst Isle



Hi Molsan and Slainte,

So glad you accepted my request to join the B&S guild. I’ve listened to the show every week since about episode 30 and have since gone back and listened to all other eps (I play WOW with no music with B&S going in the background). I’m an Australian WOW player who refuses to play on anything but US servers and due to the time difference I have gotten very used to playing alone, questing alone, logging on when I am only guildie online (out of a guild of sometimes 400+ members) but funnily enough, this podcast and guild has made me feel like I’ve finally found some people who ‘get’ WOW.  Without gushing too much, I just have to say the greatness of your show and your refreshing and down to earth perspective on WOW has left me with 2 questions:

“I wonder how much more I would’ve enjoyed this game had I known about podcasts in general and/or had your show been on the Net back say, 6 years ago?”


“Why didn’t I give the Horde a proper chance till now when I rolled a Troll Druid on Earthen Ring solely to join the B&S guild? The Horde aren’t filthy scoundrels as I once thought, they’re deep and misunderstood…when they’re not chopping down Ashenvale.”

Enough butt-kissing – time for Thrall and Aggra.

Playing only Alliance toons till this year meant I knew very little about Thrall but funnily enough I went back on my Nelf Hunter (my main) and did the Hyjal/Deepholm/Uldum quest where he gets kidnapped and Aggra and I brought him back. I now see why so many people idolize him and seeing his feelings for his true love Agra – and him wanting little green babies with her – solidified that. Varian is nowhere near as interesting or deep and one wonders if he would share the same resolve that Thrall does to lay down his title of King and fight for the planet rather than for the good of the Alliance? Thrall is far too awesome to lead the Horde… he is destined for far greater things. Thrall and Cenarius vs Ragnaros in Hyjal was amazing. As for Aggra, her influence on his Shamanistic skills and life is only positive and makes their story and more importantly, their son. so much more interesting. I for one would love to see how Anduin and Durak (Thrall’s son) interact and how their story is played out in future expansions or possibly…. the next WOW game!

That’s it from me – stay classy and please invite my Hunter to the guild when I server/race change him to Earthen Ring!

Zahbs. Orc Hunter on Arthas-US

hey guys!

First time writing in. Stumbled on the show (luckily!) on the very first 30 weeks of WoW and have been tuning in every week since. Anyhow.

I completely agree that WoD should and will hopefully be all about character development. Too many amazing heros and even more bad ass villains have fell by the way-side by blizz. More Sylvanas! More Orc tribe leaders! But most of all, as a hunter since start of BC till Today…REXXAR! I mean his home planet is dranor. Hes half orc and half ogre…that sounds like WoD to me. He was deemed a “champion of the horde” by thrall back in warcraft 3. Would love to see what he does back home to prevent the terrible place that what we know as “Outlands” from ever existing

Thanks guys, keep up the great work!

TWoWoD Week 6 – Mythic and Flex Raiding and Raid Finder

Q&A with Sláinte

With all the cross-realm and realm merge changes… why do we still need guilds?

With all the friend stuffs, raid finder tools and what not… no need for guilds, right?

After you complete something you’ve been working at for so long, do you ever miss some of your routines like dailies? Do you miss the factions and quest-givers?

Doesn’t playing and talking about PvP / battlegrounds mean that you’re bored with the game right now?

What is your biggest raiding pet peeves?

How are your profession cooldowns (Sky Golems and ingots) coming along?

What have you been doing since you received your Legendary Cloak? Have you done Ordos or Garrosh yet?

Call from Lagerhoof – Week 8 of Favorite BBQ

Call from Strumpet – Week 8 Favorite BBQ


Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba

Additional clips of music taken from “Ylvis – The Fox (Karaoke/Instrumental)” by danielh7052 and The Knack My Sharona THE BEST instrumental version by Rodrigo B.V.

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In the twenty-third World of Warcraft podcast episode, we comment on the bombs Blizzard dropped on Mage bomb buffs, we discuss strategies for the Glory of the Hero achievement, we share our and your favorite raid for week two of our thirty weeks of WoW, we talk Ghost Iron Ore (again), along with professions, and a remote auction house noob tip, we get into level 80 twinking with iLevel 409 items, drink some potions of luck, and give big grats to the Bitter and Salty guild for reaching level 25.

Bitter and Salty is brought to you weekly by Molsan and Sláinte.

Today’s Hotfixes… Mage and Tank Buffs!

Glory of the Hero

  • Couldn’t Solo Old Kingdom
  • Zombiefest strategy

#TWoWoW – Week 2 – Favorite Raid

My favourite raid would have to be Karazhan!

Part of it was the mechanics – they were interesting, new, and challenging.

Part of it was, strangely enough, the effort you had to go through to actually get attuned. I know raid attunement is a double-edged sword, but I did enjoy the challenge – mainly because I got to do it with friends. Which brings me to the main reason I liked Karazhan so much – the friends and guildies that I got to run it with. I always looked forward to raiding not because I might get loot or down a new boss, but because the people I ran it with made it a very enjoyable time for me!

(Although our tank had this crazy notion of doing difficult pulls of packs of undead by gathering them all up and AoEing!)

Keep up the great work guys!

    • Mystek AKA Tydanis, Earthen Ring US

So for my week 2 submission for my favourite raid I had a bit of trouble deciding on one. I’ve been playing since WoW has released so I’ve experienced every raid that’s been out, so I had to take some time and think about each one and which I had the fondest memories of. After some thought, I narrowed it down to only two: Kharazhan and Sunwell. Not only do I have my fondest memories during this time in WoW (the Burning Crusade exspansion) from both content and the people I played with then, but both of these raids were long, interesting, fun, and beautiful in design. If I had to choose just one of those raids, well I can’t haha, but I would say Kharazhan for overall fun, and Sunwell for overall beauty and lore.

Keep up the awesome job guys, the show is a pleasure to listen to each week 🙂

 Hello Molsan and Sláinte! It’s Grimm writing in with my 30 days of WoW. I’m gonna cheat and backdate this first email to include week one, so:

My first toon was a Tuaren feral druid named Sala (after the Indiana Jones character) on Korialstrasz. I started playing in december of 2006, right before the launce of BC, and didn’t know feral was not a viable spec. I just liked turning into a cat and stealthing past everything. I was on Korial for 3 years until all the friends I had been playing with had finally stopped playing, and I wanted to go somewhere that I know people would be on even at my late hours, so I transferred to Earthen Ring to join AIE. Sala was taken, and being terrible at selecting names the best thing I could come up with was Rowlf (like the Muppet). That lasted a few months until I got sick of it and decided to come up with something that I could work into any character to make naming easier, and thus Grimmclaw was born. So yes, original toon played since vanilla.

As to my favorite raid, although I love the design, look and feel of Ulduar, I have the best memories from ICC, when Floor Tanks made it through to defeat the Lich King. We may not have been cutting edge, but it was the first time I ever killed an end of expansion boss while it was current content, and by the end of ICC that team had a great chemistry.

Ghost Iron Ore

  • What is the deal with the raw uncommon market?

Remote Auction House Noob Tip

  • Manipulate the query string and bookmark your favorite searches
  • Change “faction” and “search_term” in the query below

Auction House Etiquette

  • Call from Tethedra (sorry if we misspelled your name)


  • Crafted shield and BoE Gift for main tank

i409 Twinking

    • DK 310 Item Level

Potion of Luck

  • Molsan
    • Session 1 (Blood DK) – Howling Wind Caverns
      • 6 Plundered Treasure
      • 4g
      • 2g, 5 GiO, 2 MoH
      • 25g
      • 1g
      • 2g
      • 4g, 2 GiO, 3 Black Trillium Ore, 3 White Trillium Ore
      • 3 MoH
      • 21 Windwool Cloth
      • 3 Uncommons
      • Bunch of GiO (from Mining)
    • Session 2 (same)
      • 8 Plundered Treasure
      • 3g, 3 WWC, 4 BTO, 4 WTO
      • 4g
      • 4g
      • 24g, 4 BTO
      • 2g
      • 5g, 5 GIO
      • 4g
      • 2g, 1 uncommon
      • 1 MoH
      • 11 WWC
      • Bunch of GIO (from Mining)
  •  Sláinte
    • Used in HoF LFR Trash
    • Thanks for tip Rho
    • Looted 6 Treasures
    • Gold and other stuff
    • Got 4 Treasures
    • Mostly Gold and White Trillium Ore

Soul of the Aspects Pet Giveaway

  • From @benredington
  • Mention us on Twitter with… Your favorite in-game battle cry (for the horde, glory to the alliance, Anu belore dela’na, etc.)!
  • On Thursday, March 28th, we will select one random person who follows us and mentions us with their favorite battle cry.
  • Follow us @bitterandsalty so we can DM you the code!

Bitter and Salty Guild Dings 25!

  • Thank you all!!!


  • Jean Dings 25 on a Pet
  • Jean Dings 90 on 3rd character


@badtauren how many palis between the two of you

@JetrixAdune by the way guys, I got the “Diplomat” Title earlier this week…would love a shout out!

@Ashayo Sorry I missed Q1! I don’t believe all those folks whose first toon wasn’t a NE Hunter. Mine was 🙂

@jeanbees My first toon was a dwarf pally. My son deleted her.#lateagain
@jeanbees My NEXT first toon was a NE druid named Saris. Now she’s a troll named Aless. STILL not max level (88).

@Wowhonen My first toon might be gone but his namesake lives on! My next toon to 90 will be my rogue Nobag

@Nick20Q @Molsan congrats to your podcast and guild! that is awesome


  • Clips of intro and outro music taken from “Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix)” by spinningmerkaba.

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